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Money taken from my son, not the father, who to complain to

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  • speedster
    speedster Posts: 1,300 Forumite
    shell_542 wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't make. Post clear enough.

    I meant what they appear to have done the OP's son must be illegal. Yes they can attach a DEO to an NRPs wages without "permission" but surely they can't go attaching DEO's to any old person in the whole of the UK!

    What they've done is theft in this case as they've taken the wrong person's money. And its frightening that they have the ability to do it.

    just another example of them abusing their draconian powers really.

    what's worse is, they now have more to abuse too.

    as borat would say....."issa like a letting monkey fly da plane!" :rotfl:
    NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT. THEY'LL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL AND BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE.

    and, please. only thank when appropriate. not to boost idiots egos.
  • DUTR
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    shell_542 wrote: »
    if they have no response from their letters they'll assume paternity.

    If they get no reply about the assessment, they'll come up with a figure themselves.

    If they don't get any replies to letters about that figure and have what they think are employment details of the NRP, they'll attach a DEO.

    I'm not surprised in the slightest really. Bit worried that they can do it though. Maybe their "powers" have gone a bit too far and are dangerous in the hands of incompetent staff or systems. Whoever authorised this should be in MAJOR trouble.

    It should be illegal surely, to take money from someone like that. Its basically theft.

    Yes I agree, and that is what concerned me, all this episode seemed to have appeared out of the blue which I just can't believe, and the OP has failed to clarify if no initial correspondance was made, as whilst folk can share the same name and birth date, it is unusual to share the same NI number :o
  • cinders59
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    who gave them details of his employer??
    They had his employers details form his NI number, but they didn't pick up the fact that my son works in Swansea and they were sending letters to York. Obviously the father was getting them but wasn't bothering to sort it out.
    The first my son knew about all this was the deduction on his pay slip
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  • CSA_Help
    CSA_Help Posts: 1,318 Forumite
    julieef wrote: »
    They had his employers details form his NI number, but they didn't pick up the fact that my son works in Swansea and they were sending letters to York. Obviously the father was getting them but wasn't bothering to sort it out.
    The first my son knew about all this was the deduction on his pay slip

    I am reading this post with disbelief

    Above all they are an equal oportunites employer

    Surely a supervisor would need to authorise a deo

    I hope you get this sorted out pronto and think of the distress this has caused your family .I would be seeking healthy compensation not the £50 they usually fob you of with .

    Good Luck
  • DUTR
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    CSA_Help wrote: »
    julieef wrote: »
    They had his employers details form his NI number, but they didn't pick up the fact that my son works in Swansea and they were sending letters to York. Obviously the father was getting them but wasn't bothering to sort it out.
    The first my son knew about all this was the deduction on his pay slip

    I am reading this post with disbelief

    Above all they are an equal oportunites employer

    Surely a supervisor would need to authorise a deo

    I hope you get this sorted out pronto and think of the distress this has caused your family .I would be seeking healthy compensation not the £50 they usually fob you of with .

    Good Luck

    I'm not, hits me as a party ignoring correspondance until somethin drastic happens.
    EO employer relates to fair employment irrespective of gender/race disabilty.
    The supervisor can only work on the information provided in front of them.
    If the OP party has simply ignored earlier correspondance then I don't feel it warrants compensation (even though it is not me paying or recieving it).
  • CSA_Help
    CSA_Help Posts: 1,318 Forumite
    DUTR wrote: »
    CSA_Help wrote: »

    I'm not, hits me as a party ignoring correspondance until somethin drastic happens.
    EO employer relates to fair employment irrespective of gender/race disabilty.
    The supervisor can only work on the information provided in front of them.
    If the OP party has simply ignored earlier correspondance then I don't feel it warrants compensation (even though it is not me paying or recieving it).
    DUTR
    Sit back and read the 1st post

    It turns out the Mother of this child who lives in York, didn't know the DOB of the father, so when the CSA did a check on the name and DOB, my son was top of the list, even though, their middle names are different, and the other boy had changed his name 7 years ago and he didn't tell this girl.

    There is a clue in the above it was a case of mistaken identity on the CSA's part .
    So why shouldn't the poor guy not get compensation from them .
  • cinders59
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    edited 26 January 2010 at 7:45PM
    DUTR wrote: »
    CSA_Help wrote: »

    I'm not, hits me as a party ignoring correspondance until somethin drastic happens.
    EO employer relates to fair employment irrespective of gender/race disabilty.
    The supervisor can only work on the information provided in front of them.
    If the OP party has simply ignored earlier correspondance then I don't feel it warrants compensation (even though it is not me paying or recieving it).
    The CSA have admitted they screwed up. As the girl didn't have her boyfriends DOB she gave an estimate. The boyfriend had changed his surname without telling her, so he was not found in the name search they did. The letters were going to the boyfriends house in York, under his old name.
    That is why they had my sons name,and DOB, Was told his name came out at the top of the list, so they just assumed he was the father. . It didn't matter to them that they had different middle names, and that they lived in different parts of the country. That alone should have been a red flag. All my 22 year old son has done is go to work each day and then finds this has happened to him
    All this was confirmed to me yesterday on the phone
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  • CSA_Help
    CSA_Help Posts: 1,318 Forumite
    julieef wrote: »
    DUTR wrote: »
    The CSA have admitted they screwed up. As the girl didn't have her boyfriends DOB she gave an estimate. The boyfriend had changed his surname without telling her, so he was not found in the name search they did.
    That is why they had my sons name,and DOB, and just assumed it was him. It didn't matter to them that they had different middle names, and that they lived in different parts of the country. That alone should have been a red flag. All my 22 year old son has done is go to work each day and then finds this has happened to him
    All this was confirmed to me yesterday on the phone

    I take it your son has never had any correspondance from the CSA as other posters think he had .Just to clarify for the post .

    I hope thay have sorted out his money just now that they illegaly took .
    Are they going to confirm their mistake this in writing

    What compensation are they offering your son ?

    You will laugh about this once its sorted out :rotfl:
  • cinders59
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    No not one letter, or phone call.
    As of yet no comp. I had another call today saying the money might not be put back into his pay straight away as it is in the process of being sent to the girl. but was assured it would be paid back ASAP.
    I was assured that there would be no more taken out of his pay, as there was a monthly payment of £165 against him.
    They are ringing again on Fri to see if They managed to get the money back to him.

    I will then take it from there.
    We are still in disbelief that this has happened
    Thanks to all who post comps :)
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  • CSA_Help
    CSA_Help Posts: 1,318 Forumite
    julieef wrote: »
    No not one letter, or phone call.
    As of yet no comp. I had another call today saying the money might not be put back into his pay straight away as it is in the process of being sent to the girl. but was assured it would be paid back ASAP.
    I was assured that there would be no more taken out of his pay, as there was a monthly payment of £165 against him.
    They are ringing again on Fri to see if They managed to get the money back to him.

    I will then take it from there.
    We are still in disbelief that this has happened

    Demand the money back right away its their mess and they can worry about the girl .What matters is putting your son right first .

    Get the persons names that you speak to

    Get them to confirm mistake in writing

    Think of all the undue stress they have caused your family and get a claim in for incompetance

    Your probably too young to be a granny anyway :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
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