Is my company being unreasonable?

Roobarb73

NorhternMonkey wrote: »

I know know they are being unreasonable!

I have spoken to my colleague as I would like him to come an see a customer with me on the 29th (booked an appointment this morning before any starts questioning) only to find out he has booked it off today!:mad:

So try telling me they are not holding my paternityagainst me!

Ouch.

Have you raised it with them yet?

Fire_Fox

Why on earth can't you ask your employers nicely which weekend in February they are able to allow you a long weekend off? Alternatively you could have booked it well in advance, if you booked a weekend a month after the baby's due date you would have been fine. Surely your family can be flexible if they are all keen to see you??

Tiddlywinks

You need to get some perspective over this - as others have said, you are not the first man to have become a dad or to have to deal with being a working father.

The company has processes and procedures - work within them and if you feel you have been treated unfairly then deal with it within the company framework.

At the moment you are just coming across as having a bit of a tantrum because you can't have it all your own way.

PennyPincher_L

i know its hard to understand but do save your holidays for later days

mikey72

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

You need to get some perspective over this - as others have said, you are not the first man to have become a dad or to have to deal with being a working father.

The company has processes and procedures - work within them and if you feel you have been treated unfairly then deal with it within the company framework.

At the moment you are just coming across as having a bit of a tantrum because you can't have it all your own way.

He may not be the first man to have become a dad, but he's one of the first under paternity leave rules.
It's exactly the same as maternity leave used to be when it was introduced, and then it was wrongly considered one big holiday. Now even mentioning it in the wrong context brings a cry of discrimination.
It's discrimination here, but whether or not it's worth pursueing is a different matter.

owaispoul

I do not think so it's really not accessible because your company have work load because of that it was given you this answer.
Just think about it.

seven-day-weekend

mikey72 wrote: »

He may not be the first man to have become a dad, but he's one of the first under paternity leave rules.
It's exactly the same as maternity leave used to be when it was introduced, and then it was wrongly considered one big holiday. Now even mentioning it in the wrong context brings a cry of discrimination.
It's discrimination here, but whether or not it's worth pursueing is a different matter.

What is it then, if not holiday? When I was working, some people were off for a year!

Back to the OP, it appears that his employers may be being a bit inflexible, but that's their perogative. Hre could have a long weekend later on, in, say, March.

Sucker_for_sweeties

NorhternMonkey wrote: »

Hello Folks,

I had a week off just before christmas to spend time with my wife who was heavily pregnant. She then give birth on New Years day, so I took two weeks paternaty leave.

Sadly when I had both mine OH, who works for a small employer, couldn't even take his entitlement to patermity leave. The company could only afford to pay the stat amount, and we couldn't afford it. He used two days annual leave he had hoarded for ages instead.

So it could have been worse.

I have now asked for the 29th Jan, 1st and 8th Feb off, but they have been refused because work say I have had too much time off recently.

I tried to explaine that the 29th and 1st (Fri & Mon) off so we can go and visit my family, as I have lots and its would be easier than that lot comming down.

The 8th I want so I can look after our little girl while my wife goes to a meeting.

Are my company being unreasonable?

Even if they are (which most folk wouldn't think), it's the way it is, if you don't want this hanging around like a bad smell for the rest of your time there then forget it.
Book at the times they've said are OK, and flex.

ninky_2

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

What is it then, if not holiday? When I was working, some people were off for a year!

Back to the OP, it appears that his employers may be being a bit inflexible, but that's their perogative. Hre could have a long weekend later on, in, say, March.

it is paternity (parental) leave. just as sick leave or compassionate leave is not a holiday, paternity leave is not a holiday either. the difference being that holiday is available to everyone. paternity leave is only available to new fathers. sick leave is only available to sick people. and compassionate leave is only available to the bereaved or whatever. you wouldn't tell someone who had just had a week off because their partner had died they couldn't have a holiday because they had just had one, would you?

seven-day-weekend

ninky wrote: »

it is paternity (parental) leave. just as sick leave or compassionate leave is not a holiday, paternity leave is not a holiday either. the difference being that holiday is available to everyone. paternity leave is only available to new fathers. sick leave is only available to sick people. and compassionate leave is only available to the bereaved or whatever. you wouldn't tell someone who had just had a week off because their partner had died they couldn't have a holiday because they had just had one, would you?

But I think that is a different scenario altogether. The OP has not been ill or bereaved. He has just become a father.