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Manchester United debt hits £716m

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  • chucky
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    there was an awful lot of deadwood on show on saturday, namely that hefty lump timber up front now known as Ebanks-Blank !!:eek:
    he promised much as a 16 year old at Man U due to his physical attributes but he's not a premiership player at the moment. you need a bit more than that.

    he's not very intelligent on the pitch and has got a touch of a rap artist.
  • lemonjelly
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    chucky wrote: »
    he promised much as a 16 year old at Man U due to his physical attributes but he's not a premiership player at the moment. you need a bit more than that.

    he's not very intelligent on the pitch and has got a touch of a rap artist.

    Shockingly chucky, I'm gonna disagree with you.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ4sB-PHlgk

    Anyone who can score a goal like the above can't be described as not an intelligent player.

    I've seen him beat teams on his own (almost).

    I really thought he was the 1 player who'd make the step up. He hasn't yet.

    He's a confidence player. Needs his confidence back.
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  • chucky
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    edited 21 January 2010 at 1:25PM
    lemonjelly wrote: »
    Shockingly chucky, I'm gonna disagree with you.
    i expected no less!!!! :rotfl:
    lemonjelly wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ4sB-PHlgk

    Anyone who can score a goal like the above can't be described as not an intelligent player.

    I've seen him beat teams on his own (almost).

    I really thought he was the 1 player who'd make the step up. He hasn't yet.


    He's a confidence player. Needs his confidence back.
    exactly my point in the Championship against Charlton

    i said "he promised much as a 16 year old at Man U due to his physical attributes but he's not a premiership player at the moment. you need a bit more than that."

    against category B or C players in the Championship he's fine.
    put him in the Premiership against category A players he's not up to it at the moment (he's still young too)

    but he's still got a touch of a rap artist though :D
  • lemonjelly wrote: »
    Shockingly chucky, I'm gonna disagree with you.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ4sB-PHlgk

    Anyone who can score a goal like the above can't be described as not an intelligent player.

    I've seen him beat teams on his own (almost).

    I really thought he was the 1 player who'd make the step up. He hasn't yet.

    He's a confidence player. Needs his confidence back.


    he looks about 4stone lighter in that clip..
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  • Sir_Humphrey
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    edited 21 January 2010 at 3:19PM
    lemonjelly wrote: »
    Shockingly chucky, I'm gonna disagree with you.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ4sB-PHlgk

    Anyone who can score a goal like the above can't be described as not an intelligent player.

    I presume that is a link to "Wonder Goal" against Charlton (Youtube is blocked in my office).

    I was actually at that match right in line with the Blake shot, although the goal post obscured my view of him taking the defender. I just remember thinking "how the heck did he do that"?

    I will never forget when we scored the winner; I have never seen any football fans go as nuts as then (myself included)!
    he looks about 4stone lighter in that clip..

    BTW, Blake's always had a big backside.

    PS: I also saw the Mark Kennedy goal at Stockport, so I saw two out the top three Wolves goals of the 2000s. :D
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  • lemonjelly
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    I presume that is a link to "Wonder Goal" against Charlton (Youtube is blocked in my office).

    I was actually at that match right in line with the Blake shot, although the goal post obscured my view of him taking the defender. I just remember thinking "how the heck did he do that"?

    I will never forget when we scored the winner; I have never seen any football fans go as nuts as then (myself included)!



    BTW, Blake's always had a big backside.

    PS: I also saw the Mark Kennedy goal at Stockport, so I saw two out the top three Wolves goals of the 2000s. :D

    If you saw the Alex Rae goal at Bolton, you'd have the full set!:rotfl:
    It's getting harder & harder to keep the government in the manner to which they have become accustomed.
  • I presume that is a link to "Wonder Goal" against Charlton (Youtube is blocked in my office).

    I was actually at that match right in line with the Blake shot, although the goal post obscured my view of him taking the defender. I just remember thinking "how the heck did he do that"?

    I will never forget when we scored the winner; I have never seen any football fans go as nuts as then (myself included)!



    BTW, Blake's always had a big backside.

    PS: I also saw the Mark Kennedy goal at Stockport, so I saw two out the top three Wolves goals of the 2000s. :D

    you didn't see him saturday !!
    i thought i was at Big Momma's House !!
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  • Sir_Humphrey
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    lemonjelly wrote: »
    If you saw the Alex Rae goal at Bolton, you'd have the full set!:rotfl:

    The last time I saw Bolton play at home was against Wolves at Burndon Park in 1988! That was my first match.
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  • inspector_monkfish
    inspector_monkfish Posts: 9,276 Forumite
    edited 21 January 2010 at 3:49PM
    The last time I saw Bolton play at home was against Wolves at Burndon Park in 1988! That was my first match.


    the first Wolves match I remember seeing properly, was the 1988 Sherpa Van Trophy at the old Wembley, against Burnley, infront of 80,000 people with my Dad.

    i'll never forget seeing Steve Bull conducting the Burnley crowd as they chanted "Bull-!!!!!!, Bullsh!t" whilst wearing the trophy lid on his head !!


    ps. he also took me to the 1980 League Cup Final against Notts Forest (Wolves won 1-0 thanks to Andy Gray mugging Peter Shilton) but I don't really remember alot about the actual day
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  • Generali
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    For those that can access the 'Long Room' area of the FT website:

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    Summary

    The small print of Red Football Ltd’s bond prospectus shows that the Glazers have structured the issue to allow them to take at least £20m of dividends out of the club every year. An additional, so far unnoticed, clause allows a further £25m to be paid out in dividends at any time. Add these payments to the £70m already known about, the Carrington deal and “management fees” and at least £220m of the club’s cash will flow directly to the Glazers between 2010 to 2017.

    With interest on the bonds and the extra cost of leasing our training ground back, the total that will be sucked out of the club between now and 2017 will exceed half a billion pounds, to add to the huge cost already imposed by the Glazers.

    Then follows a lot of detailed analysis, finishing with:
    Conclusion Many supporters, commentators and people in the wider football world have been astonished by the revelations concerning the Glazers ownership of Manchester United that have come to light in the last week.

    This paper demonstrates that the pillaging of the club over the last four years by the owners is set to continue and indeed accelerate in the years to come. Nobody can be in any doubt; not the fans, the Football Association, the Premier League, UEFA, the government or indeed the manager or players that what is being allowed to happen is nothing less than a violent assault on one of Britain’s best known sporting institutions. There can no longer be any excuses by the football authorities to not immediately and urgently intervene (through rule changes if necessary) to prevent people, who have no interest in football beyond their own greed, from acting in this way.

    Apparently the writer has 15 years of financial analysis behind him and a season ticket at Old Trafford.
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