Manchester United debt hits £716m

chucky

kennyboy66 wrote: »

Wigans average football attendance will be higher than the RL clubs.

Hulls average crowd will almost certainly exceed both Hull KR and Hull rugby league average combined - although I am struggling to get exact stats, I would be very surprised if the average super league crowd exceeded 10k at either of the Hull clubs.

i've heard it from both Chairmen who were complaining about paying for police for their games. they were claiming they were the less popular sports in the towns and were paying more for police costs.

i've never been to neither and not met anyone from neither so haven't the remotest clue how accurate their comments could have been

edit - i've just looked at Hull KR stadium on google maps and it's tiny - less than 10,000 i reckon

Sir_Humphrey

I have been to Spurs this season, and I have a ticket for Wolves vs West Ham. The prices are about £30-35 a ticket for those clubs, and I always have to think twice as that is a lot of money for 90 minutes of footie on a plastic seat.

One of the reasons I have respect for Mick McCarthy and the current Wolves set up is that they seem to be trying to avoid the Portsmouth way of boom and bust and instead build things up in a sustainable manner. I think Wolves should avoid the drop this season and be able to build a Premier League bridgehead for next season.

kennyboy66_2

chucky wrote: »

it's a decreasing trend that can be seen by looking at the cup games and the early stages of the Champions League. season ticket holders usually have 6 or 7 cup games and they spread them over the season across all cup competitions - is Everton like that too?

If you sign up for the cup schemes at both Everton and Liverpool, the ticket price is debited from your debit/credit card about 2 weeks before the match and your season ticket card will then allow you entry for that match.

I'd normally signed up in the past - but this year I've swerved it. If it means I can't get a ticket in the unlikely event that we make a final, I'd probably just pay a couple of hundred to a tout. One of my pet hates is matches on a sunday particularly the 4pm game. It ruins my sunday dinner, then you spend the next 2 hours rushing to get the kids already for school the next day.

I hate football.

lemonjelly

Sir_Humphrey wrote: »

I have been to Spurs this season, and I have a ticket for Wolves vs West Ham. The prices are about £30-35 a ticket for those clubs, and I always have to think twice as that is a lot of money for 90 minutes of footie on a plastic seat.

One of the reasons I have respect for Mick McCarthy and the current Wolves set up is that they seem to be trying to avoid the Portsmouth way of boom and bust and instead build things up in a sustainable manner. I think Wolves should avoid the drop this season and be able to build a Premier League bridgehead for next season.

Wolves have been a very well run club in recent years. They've made some very good business decisions. They've also learned from some of the clubs previous mistakes.

Long may it continue.

You are correct, survival this season could, potentially, result in a considerable development over coming years.

kennyboy66_2

chucky wrote: »

i've heard it from both Chairmen who were complaining about paying for police for their games. they were claiming they were the less popular sports in the towns and were paying more for police costs.

i've never been to neither and not met anyone from neither so haven't the remotest clue how accurate their comments could have been

For a while Wigan football club withheld money owing to the police (they ended up having to pay).
I suspect in general, Rugby league supporters are a bit better behaved and need less police (although more racism IMHO).

There probably a bit of the police thinking that football has more money so can therefore afford more as well.

Generali

Sir_Humphrey wrote: »

I have been to Spurs this season, and I have a ticket for Wolves vs West Ham. The prices are about £30-35 a ticket for those clubs, and I always have to think twice as that is a lot of money for 90 minutes of footie on a plastic seat.

One of the reasons I have respect for Mick McCarthy and the current Wolves set up is that they seem to be trying to avoid the Portsmouth way of boom and bust and instead build things up in a sustainable manner. I think Wolves should avoid the drop this season and be able to build a Premier League bridgehead for next season.

Wolves have a debt of £30,000,000 but that is owed to Steve Morgan who would presumably swap it for equity if Wolves couldn't repay him. They claim their overall 'reserves' (gross cash?) are £66,000,000.

Sir_Humphrey

Generali wrote: »

Wolves have a debt of £30,000,000 but that is owed to Steve Morgan who would presumably swap it for equity if Wolves couldn't repay him. They claim their overall 'reserves' (gross cash?) are £66,000,000.

The thing is that Wolves should be in a position to do this if required because they have made only a few, but canny signings (eg Doyle and Milijas have been excellent value, and Hahnemann was a genius free transfer) and AIUI they are trying to keep the wage bill under control. McCarthy has bought a few duff players, but all managers without an unlimited chequebook will do that. A few of our Championship promotion players such Elokobi try hard but really are not Premier League quality.

This is at the expense of having a lack of strength in depth, hence the pragmatic but not quite "cricket" decision to rest payers for Man U a few days after the Spurs win (they worked their !!!!!s off at White Hart Lane). There was a lot of deadwood at Molineux which has been successfully cleared out.

inspector_monkfish

Sir_Humphrey wrote: »

The thing is that Wolves should be in a position to do this if required because they have made only a few, but canny signings (eg Doyle and Milijas have been excellent value, and Hahnemann was a genius free transfer) and AIUI they are trying to keep the wage bill under control. McCarthy has bought a few duff players, but all managers without an unlimited chequebook will do that. A few of our Championship promotion players such Elokobi try hard but really are not Premier League quality.

This is at the expense of having a lack of strength in depth, hence the pragmatic but not quite "cricket" decision to rest payers for Man U a few days after the Spurs win (they worked their !!!!!s off at White Hart Lane). There was a lot of deadwood at Molineux which has been successfully cleared out.

there was an awful lot of deadwood on show on saturday, namely that hefty lump timber up front now known as Ebanks-Blank !!:eek:

Sir_Humphrey

inspector_monkfish wrote: »

there was an awful lot of deadwood on show on saturday, namely that hefty lump timber up front now known as Ebanks-Blank !!:eek:

I don't really understand what has happened with Ebank-Blake. He looked fairly dangerous agaist Tottenham, but did not manage to score.

It is not uncommon for players to have goal droughts - I remember Robbie Keane having a lean spell when he was at Wolves so he may come good eventually.

inspector_monkfish

Sir_Humphrey wrote: »

I don't really understand what has happened with Ebank-Blake.
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by the looks of it, he discovered the local cake shop :eek: