Daugter was assaulted what next

Janepig

tandraig wrote: »

actually janepig you are wrong. my son was attacked by a group of girls in town and knocked unconscious. they were charged and prosecuted even though they hadnt been in trouble before. at court they were fined, had to pay him compensation and have now got a criminal record for assualt. what made it worse was that they knew him from school and in court admitted that he hadnt done anything to provoke the attack - they were just drunk and thought he looked at them the wrong way!

I'm not wrong - being knocked unconcious after a group unprovoked attack is a million miles away from a drunken argument in a club that has spilled outside resulting in "bruising". I would guess that whoever assaulted your sonwould have been charged with GBH/ABH which is alot more serious than Common Assault. And as I said, I haven't seen the CCTV - it may well show that the OP's DD did nothing and only shows her being attacked. Whereby she'll have a stronger case, but the assailants could still get away with a caution.

Jxx

Janepig

tandraig wrote: »

actually janepig you are wrong. my son was attacked by a group of girls in town and knocked unconscious. they were charged and prosecuted even though they hadnt been in trouble before. at court they were fined, had to pay him compensation and have now got a criminal record for assualt. what made it worse was that they knew him from school and in court admitted that he hadnt done anything to provoke the attack - they were just drunk and thought he looked at them the wrong way!

so if your daughter can identify her attackers and the bruises show that an assault took place (take photos if you can - the ones i took helped the prosecution) then there is no reason they cannot be prosecuted.

What was your daughters bf thinking of to leave his gf? even if she was with friends - what if it had been men attacking her - doubt if she would have escaped with a few bruises! shame on him.

She was attacked by a man - according to the OP.

And surely at 24 she can be out without her boyfriend? Presumably he left before the trouble started.

Jxx

Threebabes

What a horrible thing to have happened to your DD.

I would be getting them charged as well, show them you cant go around doing that to people and getting away with it.

tandraig

you are just nitpicking here janepig - the OP plainly states that 3 girls attacked her and the man joined in! almost exactly the same circs as my son - he didnt even know until the court case started that a man joined in after the girls knocked him unconscious - which is when a witness phoned the police. unfortunately it wasnt in area the cctv covered - but the witness stood up in court and the man got a suspended sentence. cos the girls were the instigators and caused most of the injuries!
and yes - at 24 she can go where she likes without her bf. the operative word here is GO. call me oldfashioned - but if my daughter went out with her OH then i would expect him to see her home safely - even if her girlfriends were with her for some of the evening (especially as they didnt do a great job of ensuring everyones safety did they?).

Janepig

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

The attack and the court date were 2 very traumatic experiences, and yet he got off with community service. And that was with everybody involved being sober and in broad daylight.

And that's something the OP's DD needs to consider. She'd be the main witness, and given all the circumstances she would have a very rough ride from a defence solicitor with no guarantee of a conviction at the end of it.

Jxx

elsien

Your DD is 24 - surely it's up to her to go to the police station and decide what she wants to do next?
And whilst it must have been awful for her, it does sound like she is partly responsible for what triggered the attack, so I think the "don't let them get away with it" approach is missing half the story.

Pitlanepiglet

I'm surprised at the way youngsters today (god I sound old!) don't look out for each other. My nephew got attacked (19) in our sleepy town leaving my cousin's daughter's 18th birthday. They all got separated and he was picked on by a group of lads. Interestingly he'd got separated because he tried to stay with one of my cousin's girls who was rolling drunk and had a hissy fit about not wanting to go the same way as everyone else. I am surprised that the OP's daughter's boyfriend went home without her on her birthday.

I'm only 40 but it was drummed into us that you looked after your mates and you made sure that everyone was looked after.

Personally, if the OP's daughter was seen to be shoving someone I'd want to see all of the evidence before I took action. It's a bit like school yard fracas, sometimes it's better if the parents don't get involved...

NAR

Mmmm normally I would say have them charged too. However your daughter was drunk, how much actual provocation was there on her part?

rose28454

Right let me explain a bit more. One of these girls in the club hit my daughters friend in the club and my dd just pushed her out of the way to prevent her friend further harm. The girls in question were itching for a fight as apparently they were thumpin their fists onthe tables before the left. Yes my daughter was thrown out and not them but it depends what the bouncers saw. The club has brought nothing but trouble to our town since it opened and has just had a 2 week closure due to licence problems. Yes I do agree that her bf should not have left her but she had been at a football match all day and did ask her to come home with him. She wanted to stay out as it was her birthday earlier inthe week and her birthday meal was cancelled due to weather. There was a mix of boys and girls in the group and they all said they would make sure she got home ok.
Yes there is alcohol to be taken into account so maybe the police advice should be sought in this case
I am grateful for all responses even the critical ones. I was really mad with her at the police bringing her home from the club she swore she would never go to again and I actually left her BF tocalm her down and put her to bed

sulkisu

Errata wrote: »

You might want to read the riot act to the boyfriend, his behaviour in leaving her in a club which seems to be well known for trouble does him no credit.

Why? Daughter is 24 years of age - that makes her a grown woman, not a child. He didn't leave her stranded in the middle of nowhere all by herself, she was in a nightclub with her friends. No doubt she could have left if she wanted to, but she 'chose' to stay. Would it have been better if he had insisted that she leave with him, whether or not she wanted to, because he didn't think that at 24 years of age, she was capable of looking after herself?

Likewise, I understand OP wanting to take action - what mother wouldn't, however it is not her decision. What happens next depends solely on what her daughter wants to happen, if anything. It's up to the daughter to press charges, not OP. The daughter came off worse, but OP only has one side of the story. Reading the OPs post a couple of factors stand out to me. Alcohol was clearly a major factor - the fact that police were unable to question daughter because she was intoxicated (merely having had a drink will not prevent police from questioning someone, it's only if they are too drunk to be reliable or useful). Secondly, the fact that OPs daughter was the one (the only one )thrown out of the club, especially when the initial confrontation was between two other girls. These two facts (plus the fact that OP daughter admitted pushing another girl) suggest that she wasn't exactly blameless. I'm not saying that she deserved to be attacked, if that's what happened, I just don't think the issue is that clear cut. If I'm wrong, and OPs daughter was simply the victim of an unprovoked attack, then I'm surely she herself will want to see her attackers charged, and will take the appropriate steps to do so.

I just find it strange that OP appears to be driving this, not her daughter.