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A New Type of Property Show on TV - "Britain's Empty Homes"

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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    What word should we use for the opposite of 'ramping'?

    Crashramping.

    Or just delusion.....
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  • wageslave
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    Crashramping.

    Or just delusion.....

    You have an acolyte.

    It may just be me but I find I want to bash his head against the nearest brick wall........
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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    If I was the seller and received such a comment I would point out that 'not only is there a shortage of sellers and a shortage of new building, there is a million properties off the market ad infinitum as well' :rolleyes:

    Indeed.

    A million "empty" homes does not help the bears case at all if they are uninhabitable wrecks, or more importantly, if they are simply not available for sale.;)
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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    wageslave wrote: »
    You have an acolyte.

    It may just be me but I find I want to bash his head against the nearest brick wall........

    Not an uncommon sentiment it appears.....
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    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

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  • wageslave
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    Not an uncommon sentiment it appears.....

    So Hamish, just between you and me, whats my chances of being offered half a million for my wee bit of land this year?

    I reckon, small to bliddy none.
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  • ERICS_MUM
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    Lowering the tone of this thread a tad, I find the show's presenter Jules Hudson curiously attractive! What can anyone tell me about him - age, marital status etc. Google hasn't told me much.

    Linda :A
  • julieq
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    To be honest if a year variously filled with fear, recession, mortgage rationing, collapsing confidence and headlines screaming that the housing market is in free fall has ended in postitive HPI, it's hard to see how saying "1 million empty houses" while turning three times round anticlockwise is going to have much of an effect.

    Wishful thinking I guess.

    I had a look round some empty properties for sale at the tail end of last year out of interest. IF you're cash rich and in a position to spend a few months on building work, then there are some places with reasonable potential - there was one grade 2 listed house in Haywards Heath which would have made a very pleasant home indeed. Was this not in any case what the 2007 vintage property p0rn was telling us to do? Buy something with potential and do it up for a profit?

    But you have competition even for wrecks, providing they're in decent areas. If they're in places people don't want to be then they might as well be demolished frankly. Developers won't touch them. In any cases those places are not where there's undersupply pretty much by definition.

    Transplant even Hamish's row of derelict houses to the A23 corridor and someone would fix them up in double quick time. In some sink estate in Dewsbury they're going nowhere.
  • LydiaJ
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    The trouble is, it can take more money to do up an empty, derelict place than it does to build a completely new one.

    That's only a problem when it's a nearly derelict block or street but with a few inhabited houses stopping anyone pulling the whole lot down. If it's only one or two derelict properties, then there's no reason why someone shouldn't pull them down and build new ones instead of renovating them. On a street near me there are fairly average sort of houses - definitely decent properties but nothing extra special - but for ages there was one that was empty and clearly in a poor state of repair. Then it must have been bought by a small developer because in came the bulldozers and knocked it down. A pair of semis swiftly went up in its place, and now there are people living there. It's relatively easy to get planning permission for that sort of thing as long as you design the new house(s) to be in a similar style to the rest of the street. Everybody ends up happy, pretty much, because it improves the street not to have a derelict house in it.
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  • wageslave
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    julieq wrote: »
    To be honest if a year variously filled with fear, recession, mortgage rationing, collapsing confidence and headlines screaming that the housing market is in free fall has ended in postitive HPI, it's hard to see how saying "1 million empty houses" while turning three times round anticlockwise is going to have much of an effect.

    Wishful thinking I guess.

    I had a look round some empty properties for sale at the tail end of last year out of interest. IF you're cash rich and in a position to spend a few months on building work, then there are some places with reasonable potential - there was one grade 2 listed house in Haywards Heath which would have made a very pleasant home indeed. Was this not in any case what the 2007 vintage property p0rn was telling us to do? Buy something with potential and do it up for a profit?

    But you have competition even for wrecks, providing they're in decent areas. If they're in places people don't want to be then they might as well be demolished frankly. Developers won't touch them. In any cases those places are not where there's undersupply pretty much by definition.

    Transplant even Hamish's row of derelict houses to the A23 corridor and someone would fix them up in double quick time. In some sink estate in Dewsbury they're going nowhere.

    Cash rich sounds so ugly now

    Can we leave you and I to the side?

    If I owned fu ck all and had the prospect of owning fu ck all and someone pointed me in the direction of Dewsbury.

    Is it worth any partys while to offer properties there for a quid?
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