Pulled on way home with new car.

Pete*G_4

I know, I was bumping my question to keep it nearer the bottom of the thread as I expect it'll get lost amidst the other replies

pulliptears

CHR15 wrote: »

I'm also surprised someone would be pulled over for being out of town!!

Dont be, we were pulled a few years ago in Sleaford, Lincs (we are from Staffs) and the reason the Officer gave was because we were not local and he wanted to check details

Wkdwill

hothothot wrote: »

as a former PC myself, I have to ask, did you get the HORT1 producer?

Also, random stops are permitted - unlike what most people think that the police need a reason.

I dont know what he got tbh, he just told me he got a producer with just the insurance box ticked.

Wkdwill

Pete*G wrote: »

long shot this.. but...


how did your DH's friend pay for the car? cash/card/cheque/bankers draft?

to those that don't see the relevance, bear with me - all will become clear if the answer given is the one I'm looking for...

He paid by cash

housesitter

It makes sod all difference as to how the car was paid for.
If the V5C has been dated and sent in with the same date that the person bought the car and then driven back on 3rd party other cars cover then he's stuffed.

Day insurance is about 20quid, or he should have gotten someone else to drive it back with his name on the V5 or took the whole V5 and posted himself once he got home.

I've had someone buy a car from me, put it into his mrs name and drive it back on 3rd party. He was pulled by the police as no insurance was showing, also no MOT.
They did him for the lack of MOT (which is a fine and no points) but he had valid insurance due to the way he'd done the V5.
But if the car had been in his name he would have been stuffed.
This was before the days of easily available and cheap one day cover over the internet.


I've been pulled in my car for being far from home more than once, with everything else present and correct.

Wkdwill

housesitter wrote: »

It makes sod all difference as to how the car was paid for.
If the V5C has been dated and sent in with the same date that the person bought the car and then driven back on 3rd party other cars cover then he's stuffed.

Day insurance is about 20quid, or he should have gotten someone else to drive it back with his name on the V5 or took the whole V5 and posted himself once he got home.

I've had someone buy a car from me, put it into his mrs name and drive it back on 3rd party. He was pulled by the police as no insurance was showing, also no MOT.
They did him for the lack of MOT (which is a fine and no points) but he had valid insurance due to the way he'd done the V5.
But if the car had been in his name he would have been stuffed.
This was before the days of easily available and cheap one day cover over the internet.


I've been pulled in my car for being far from home more than once, with everything else present and correct.

The seller wouldnt have had chance to send in the V5 the same day as it was late on.

Wig

If he lives near the insurers offices, how about driving over there to get a new certificate?

I'd be prepared to do that to a substantial distance to try to avoid a police case.

Boozer

I do not see much problem really, if i have read everything correctly and the folowing sums it up:

He was pulled for being out of town, the ANPR obviously showed that the car had valid insurance, obviously still in the other persons name, but insurance still the same, and he is covered 3rd party on insurance on his other car.

To me the police want to see that he is covered 3rd party for other cars, which he appears to be, no need to mention everything else, just get down the station and show them the document.

Hope all works out well.

housesitter

Wkdwill wrote: »

The seller wouldnt have had chance to send in the V5 the same day as it was late on.

Perhaps not, but at some point it's going to turn up at DVLA with the same date as the traffic stop. Let's hope it's before the producer. However, when I've had a procuder I've needed to produce the V5 document as well as insraunce and valid MOT.
That's going to make things a little interesting...

Boozer wrote: »

To me the police want to see that he is covered 3rd party for other cars, which he appears to be, no need to mention everything else, just get down the station and show them the document.

Assuming he kept his trap shut and didn't mention that he'd just bought the car...


Lesson learnt hopefully.
I'd hope he doesn't get done for it so long as next time he learns from the mistake, and there was no intention of bringing it home on the cheap with the prior knowledge that it was the wrong way to do things.

Anihilator

Insurance is a total offence. There is no defence. The only thing that matters here is was he insured.

DOE only applies TP to car's you dont own. As the OP's "friend" had completed the deal he owned the car. He can produce any insurance he wants but if the police realise he owned the car he will be prosecuted.

If the police decide to prosecute there is no defence in law for this charge and the OP would be well advised to plead guilty to minimise the penalty.