XBOX help needed

Marty_J

pitkin2020 wrote: »

The uncharted series is a massive game so I suspect it does fill a blueray quite well, if it were to be brought to the the 360 they would probably have to edit a lot of the gameplay out to get it to fit.

I'm almost 200 hours into The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and Fallout 3 on the Xbox 360, which tells us that (a) having only 8 GB available is no impediment to huge games, (b) our ideas of what constitutes a "massive game" differ somewhat, and (c) I have too much free time.

Phantom_Flan_Flinger

Marty_J wrote: »

I'm almost 200 hours into ......Fallout 3 on the Xbox 360

I'm about 2 hours and still in the first outpost ouside the start.
Only had the game 3 months. :rotfl:

pitkin2020

fall out 3 was awesome, it takes forever to complete though, bio shock 2 should be coming out this year aswell that should be good

pitkin2020

Marty_J wrote: »

I'm almost 200 hours into The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and Fallout 3 on the Xbox 360, which tells us that (a) having only 8 GB available is no impediment to huge games, (b) our ideas of what constitutes a "massive game" differ somewhat, and (c) I have too much free time.

yeah they are big games but the graphics arent top notch, definetly not what they can be!

Phantom_Flan_Flinger

pitkin2020 wrote: »

fall out 3 was awesome, it takes forever to complete though, bio shock 2 should be coming out this year aswell that should be good

I did enjoy Bioshock more than Fallout. Guess I need to give it more time though. My favourite has been Dead Space.

Marty_J

pitkin2020 wrote: »

yeah they are big games but the graphics arent top notch, definetly not what they can be!

I thought the graphics in both games were excellent, particularly Oblivion.

Phantom_Flan_Flinger wrote: »

I did enjoy Bioshock more than Fallout. Guess I need to give it more time though. My favourite has been Dead Space.

I'm the other way around; I can't really get into Bioshock for some reason. It's just one of those things I guess. I couldn't get into Assassin's Creed either, and ended up exchanging it a few days after I got it for Oblivion.

I'm really into post-apocalyptic literature and movies and whatnot, so Fallout 3 was my kind of thing in a big way. I have the collector's edition in a metal Vault-Tec lunchbox with an artwork book, a making-of DVD, and a Vault Boy bobblehead.

DCFC79

I like fallout 3 but i need to get more into it, oblivion which i need to get into it again and assassins creed

vyle

jamesb1239 wrote: »

Just as a quick note regarding memory, I only have the Arcade with 256mb memory and I have at leat 7 gamesaves on there and its still at 230 something mb, gamesaves take up hardly anything and who says you need to keep the gamesave forever?

I got the Arcade a few months ago from Game for £129.99 and that came with Lego Batman and Pure and also an extra wireless controller and it is more than sufficient for playing games, and to be honest i have no intention to ever play xbox live (although i would get banned as soon as i connected :rotfl:) I just dont see the point of it, surely if i want to play against someone i can just get OH or a friend to play against me.

256mb... first thing's first:

My bioshock game saves each take 11mb. Between fallout 3 and bioshock I have at least 2.5gb worth of saves :O. Only discovered this the other day when I ran out of hard drive space.

Demos take about 500mb each.

The Stone Guardian campaign for Dragon Age: Origins (which is free with the game) is nearly 200mb itself. 256mb is tiny.

I have no interest in playing XBL either (Apart from perhaps 1vs100) but sadly , split screen co-op/vs is becoming very rare in games . My OH has wanted to play quite a few games with me before but we couldn't because multiplayer is online only.

pitkin2020 wrote: »

all games consoles are sold below the value in which they cost to produce, it takes a lot of sales to recoup the R & D and manufacturing costs let alone the advertising costs. ONce a few million consoles are sold they are then in profit as the actual manufacturing cost isnt that high.

Not all, the Wii has never been sold at a loss, although calling it a games console would be pushing it a bit XD.

pitkin2020 wrote: »

with the xbox price drops its made it more affordable for everyone to own one, yes friends want to play with their friends so they stuck with the xbox 360, but the 360 games now are at there peak, most developers are saying they have got allthey can from the 360 compared with the ps3 where they have only just scratched the surface for what they can do in games.

The problem there is that there isn't a defined "peak". Developers and especially publishers love throwing around phrases like "Pushing it to its limit" and so on, but they're meaningless buzzwords. Does it mean that they're just filling the disk, or doing things that other consoles could not handle at all?

If it's the latter, clever coding often finds ways around these limitations. Some guys recently had a FPS running smoothly on the commodore 64, for instance.

As for the games there isn't many titles now that are solely one console only which was common practice when the ps1 and first xbox was out.

Yet exclusives is what the PS3 needs. Uncharted is awesome. MGS 4 is divisive (i've got it, but not played it yet...), Valkyria Chronicles was amazing and heavy rain has great potential, but it's only the exclusives that show what the PS3 can do. Multiplatform games rarely turn out as good as the 360's versions. Ghostbusters was ugly and hobbled, Dragon age suffers major slowdown, bayonetta has ungodly load times and slowdown.

I don't doubt that the PS3 is probably the more powerful console out of the two, but development for it is so specialised and so expensive that it rules out making games SOLELY for the PS3, and if that's the case, few developers can afford the time to make dedicated games for both 360 and ps3, so they go to the 360 which is easier to develop for and has a large user base.

Look at Factor 5 and Free Radical. They made Lair and Haze exclusive to PS3, and both games failed. Suddenly, they've gone bust. If they spread the risk over ps3, 360 and PC (I know Lair was first party, but stick with this) they could well still afford to run and bring out more games.

BTW i own a ps3, an elite and an arcade, now whilst i do love my ps3 i cant fault the online play with the 360 where as the ps3 online play really needs looking at, but i was reading that is in the pipework so who knows

If the rumours of Sony bringing in a charge for online play are true, then that'll kinda ruin their value proposition.

pitkin2020 wrote: »

The uncharted series is a massive game so I suspect it does fill a blueray quite well, if it were to be brought to the the 360 they would probably have to edit a lot of the gameplay out to get it to fit.
Whilst we aren't at the point that the size of the game is a real issue, it will be in another 12-18 months, microsoft aren't talking about releasing another console for 2-3 years. But again who knows the games industry changes daily

They wouldn't have to edit out any gameplay, just spread it across disks. It's a linear game, it's not like putting in a second disk at the half way point will cause much more inconvenience than making people get up one time. Hell, Lost Odyssey was huge and I didn't mind changing disks for that. In fact I miss swapping disks. It felt really special in the good old days to break into disk 2 of FF7, or Breath of Fire.

pitkin2020 wrote: »

fall out 3 was awesome, it takes forever to complete though, bio shock 2 should be coming out this year aswell that should be good

Fallout 3 was the first game in years to really compell me to play. Took me 3 months to do every sidequest and bobblehead, but was worth it .

DCFC79 wrote: »

I like fallout 3 but i need to get more into it, oblivion which i need to get into it again and assassins creed

I've still got vagrant story and Alundra to get into... then there's story of Thor, G Police, Space Station Silicon Valley... I need to get working on my retro game pile.

The game I'm most looking forward to right now, however, is Mass Effect 2.