lost BBC channels

superscaper

pcombo wrote: »

dont pay ur tv licence then ur not getting what ur paying for.

TV licence is for receiving any TV as it's broadcast, not for specific channels.

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pcombo wrote: »

dont pay ur tv licence then ur not getting what ur paying for.

Bad advice, you are suggesting that someone commits an offence, not very MSE.

pcombo

Face its bbc channels were paying a tv licence for so there advert free.

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pcombo wrote: »

Face its bbc channels were paying a tv licence for so there advert free.

Indeed, however that does not excuse anyone from owning a TV Licence if they have the equipment to receive TV broadcasts, which the OP does.

davidlizard

The BBC channels are stuffed full of adverts - for other BBC programmes, the radio times and all sorts of programme related merchandise.

The sooner it goes subscription the better, so those that want this mind numbing dross can pay for it, and those that don't want it needn't.

AND YOU DO NOT NEED A LICENCE IF YOU HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT CAN RECEIVE TV BROADCASTS - ONLY IF YOU WATCH TV AS IT IS BROADCAST. You can watch DVDs, play console games etc on a telly without having a licence.

superscaper

pcombo wrote: »

Face its bbc channels were paying a tv licence for so there advert free.

My point was that what the licence pays for and when you need a licence are not synonymous. You could only be watching foreign TV via satellite but you'd still need a licence, conversely if you watched nothing but BBC's iPlayer you wouldn't need a licence as it's not TV as it's being broadcast (even though I believe the funding comes from the licence).

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davidlizard wrote: »

AND YOU DO NOT NEED A LICENCE IF YOU HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT CAN RECEIVE TV BROADCASTS - ONLY IF YOU WATCH TV AS IT IS BROADCAST. You can watch DVDs, play console games etc on a telly without having a licence.

I think that you will find that you do need a licence if your equipment is capable of receiving live broadcast material.

davidlizard

Inactive wrote: »

I think that you will find that you do need a licence if your equipment is capable of receiving live broadcast material.

No - definitely definitely, definitely not!!!

You can have a house full of televisions - provided you do not use any of them to watch TV as it is broadcast, then a television licence is not required.

From the BBC TV licencing Stasi themselves:

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ15/

(and contrary to what they say, you are under no obligation to waste your time telling them you have no need for a licence, in the same way Kenwood have no business knowing whether you have a requirement for a food mixer or not).

pcombo

I agree there is many uses of TV's

game consoles, dvd players ,video players, CCTV camera use and computer monitor depending on the type. And anything else anyone can think off.

Buzby

davidlizard wrote: »

No - definitely definitely, definitely not!!!

You can have a house full of televisions - provided you do not use any of them to watch TV as it is broadcast,.

And you think this is relevant? How?

TVLRO are only interpreting the law for their own purposes. When it comes to prosecution, their 'advise' is irrelevant, t is the 'Communications Act' that stipulates the actual requirements and offence committed.

Just as a drunk sitting in a car with keys in his pocket, sleeping can be charged with being drunk in charge of a vehicle (based on the probability he'll eventually drive home, and still be over the limit), a fully working TV that the owner asserts is never used to view terrestrial live brodcasts invites the same suspension of belief.

A prosecution should be expected, and when it court the non-licence holder will have to swear on oath that they did not and have never viewed live programmes. The judge will then decide, base on if he feels the defender is being honest - nothing more.

Quite a risk, I'm sure you'll agree.

If I can I usually try to visit my local court when the TVLRO have a bunch of cases scheduled to see their disposition. A good many are called and the defender does not show, resulting in an immediate fine and bailiffs. The 3 I DID see taking place one afternoon, two said they did not use the working set, but they lot because the TVLRO solicitor showed the judge the offence was 'installing' the set (plugging it in) not the viewing of it. A point was made that should the relevant tuners have been professionally disabled or removed, making the TV unavailable to receive broadcasts, this issue would not arise.

It's all very well being righteous and indignant, but NOT if you find yourself at the end of a criminal charge.