Who is this and is it costing me money?

HannahIOW
HannahIOW Posts: 2,958 Forumite
Hi had three texts in a row today from '87121' called Lottobytext

Deleted two by accident but the first one which came through says 'Free mg: Thanks for your interest, please reply with WEALTH, to confirm your number and we will contact you if you win! Helpline 08447451791. unsub txt stop'

Are these texts costing me money? Who's sending them? Is it gonna cost if i text 'stop'?

Thanks
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  • Ypaymore
    Ypaymore Posts: 2,802 Forumite
    You can check the number here and complain http://www.phonepayplus.org.uk/output/check-a-number.aspx
  • DarkConvict
    DarkConvict Posts: 6,346 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    You can inform your network operator if these are unsolicited text messages, and ask if they are charging you.
    Although no trees were harmed during the creation of this post, a large number of electrons were greatly inconvenienced.

    There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies
  • HannahIOW wrote: »
    Are these texts costing me money? Who's sending them? Is it gonna cost if i text 'stop'?

    The answer to your question is 'yes' they are costing you. How much? It can be anything fron £1.50 up to £5.00 per text.

    Details of who's sending them:

    PhonepayPlus has the following information about the shortcode number 87121.
    This is a text message service charged at premium rate. The types of services operating on this number can be ring tones, jokes, games tarot, chat, mobile internet services (WAP) and more.
    • The costs will vary depending on the nature of the service
    If you would like to find out more about this service you should contact the company listed below.
    Oxygen8 Communications UK ( Are well know for sending scam texts, try a Google)
    12th Floor, Lyndon House
    58-62 Hagley Road
    Birmingham
    B16 8PE
    0808 206 0808
    customerservices@oxygen8.com

    If you want to log a complaint to PhonepayPlus online please click here.
    Alternatively, you can call our helpline on 0800 500 212 (Mon-Fri, 0800-1800).
    To cancel a subscribtion service (services that charge a regular fee - for example £5 per week) you simply need to send a text with the words "STOP ALL" to the shortcode number (This will cost you another Premium Rate Text, my advice is to e-mail them)


    :mad: :mad: :mad:
  • HannahIOW
    HannahIOW Posts: 2,958 Forumite
    Got another text today from 85200 :( going to try to log in online to look at my phone bill
    £2 Savers Club 2011 (putting towards a deposit :)) - £588
  • Intasun32
    Intasun32 Posts: 443 Forumite
    edited 19 December 2009 at 6:15PM
    HannahIOW wrote: »
    Got another text today from 85200 :( going to try to log in online to look at my phone bill

    @HannahIOW

    PhonepayPlus has the following information about the shortcode number 85200.





    This is a text message service charged at premium rate. The types of services operating on this number can be ring tones, jokes, games, tarot, chat, mobile internet services (WAP) and more.
    • This service costs £4.50 per text
    If you would like to find out more about this service you should contact the company listed below.
    Marketing Craze
    0870 803 2340 (Semi Premium Rate - I Recommend to use e-mail to unsubscribe ASAP)
    [EMAIL="support@lottobytext.co.uk"]support@lottobytext.co.uk[/EMAIL]

    If you want to log a complaint to PhonepayPlus online please click here.
    Alternatively, you can call our helpline on 0800 500 212 (Mon-Fri, 0800-1800).
    To cancel a subscribtion service (services that charge a regular fee - for example £5 per week) you simply need to send a text with the words "STOP ALL" to the shortcode number (At a cost of £4.50 per text)
    Want to find out more about Phone-Paid Services?


    @DarkConvict

    Quote:
    'You can inform your network operator if these are unsolicited text messages, and ask if they are charging you.'

    From experience I can tell you that your network will be of little or no help at all. The reason? They can take up to 50% of the scam text charge as administration! Even worse is that none of the regulators will do anything to help us....

    :mad: :mad: :mad:
  • http://www.phonepayplus.org.uk/output/Search-adjudications-1.aspx

    18 December 2008

    Information provider Marketing Craze Limited
    Service provider Wireless Information Network Ltd

    Information provider location London
    Service provider location High Wycombe
    Telephone network All mobile networks
    Service type Mobile SMS
    Cost 85200 - £4.50 per week, 88222 - £1.50 per week
    Number of complaints 142
    Source of complaint Public
    Fine 25000
    Sanction A formal reprimand, the information provider to seek and implement compliance advice in respect of a wide range of issues in relation to the service

    @Intasun32,,,yes the networks take their cut of the action but why don't you tell them where the fines come from and where they go
  • http://www.phonepayplus.org.uk/output/Search-adjudications-1.aspx

    18 December 2008

    Information provider Marketing Craze Limited
    Service provider Wireless Information Network Ltd

    Information provider location London
    Service provider location High Wycombe
    Telephone network All mobile networks
    Service type Mobile SMS
    Cost 85200 - £4.50 per week, 88222 - £1.50 per week
    Number of complaints 142
    Source of complaint Public
    Fine 25000
    Sanction A formal reprimand, the information provider to seek and implement compliance advice in respect of a wide range of issues in relation to the service

    @Intasun32,,,yes the networks take their cut of the action but why don't you tell them where the fines come from and where they go

    As Wantmymoney will tell you, not only do the networks take their cut, the VAT man (aka The Government) takes 15%(soon to be 17.5%) also Phone Pay Plus, the Regulator will fine these Cowboys companies. The Cowboys will pay the fines with same the money that they have scammed from us!!! That money is then used to finance the regulator, PP+, which is made up from representatives from the Premium Rate industries. Sounds far fetched but true....

    Have I missed out anything W?

    :beer:
  • nope..that's about the picture. That's why the aggregator in this case can keep coming back

    Service provider Wireless Information Network Ltd
    29 April 2005 Fine 10000
    27 May 2005 Fine 5000
    29 July 2005 Fine 7500
    29 July 2005 Fine 10000
    15 September 2005 Fine 15000
    09 December 2005 Fine 2000
    09 December 2005 Fine 500
    29 December 2005 Fine 20000
    24 March 2006 Fine 30000
    07 April 2006 Fine 10000
    26 June 2006 Fine 50000
    01 August 2006 Fine 10000
    14 August 2006 Fine 5000
    23 October 2006 Fine 5000
    05 December 2006 Fine 1000
    02 April 2007 Fine 5000
    20 April 2007 Fine 10000
    11 June 2007 Fine 5000
    09 August 2007 Fine 1000
    05 September 2007 Fine 5000
    27 September 2007 Fine 15000
    27 September 2007 Fine 105000
    20 December 2007 Fine 15000
    13 May 2008 Fine 7000
    05 June 2008 Fine 10000
    31 July 2008 Fine 6000
    18 December 2008 Fine 25000
    03 September 2009 Fine 10000

    Premium rate crime doesn't pay.....no the victims do
  • BenS1
    BenS1 Posts: 182 Forumite
    Subbing. Had 4 texts until I googled the text number and sent STOP to it. Any chance of me getting the money back that this company has charged on my contract phone?
  • jnm21
    jnm21 Posts: 860 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    edited 21 December 2009 at 1:38AM
    As others have said, there is very little chance - everyone points to anyone who can help getting a cut of what scammers scam, so they don't help people people get their money back. Bad luck - if it was P&G, my advice would be to ditch the sim & cut your losses. Perhaps ask your service provider to block premium texts or worst case, change your number?
    Certain OTT members have caused me to add this disclaimer: all advice given is free of charge & as such should be taken to be IIRC (as I don't spend hours researching all answers :eek: )!
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