Merry Christmas & Au Revoir

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carolt wrote: »

My favourite posters post less and less,

Sorry Carol, I will try to step it up a bit.

i8change

Originally Posted by vivatifosi
"Bloody Foreigners" was indeed a cracking read.

And from the Amazon comments:-

"Winder leaves it an open question whether the government led or followed public opinion"

In this context "led" means, of course, "ignored", or more accurately "defied."

The fact is that all previous waves of immigrants were limited and fully integrated; there were only around 30,000 black and ethnically Asian people in Britain in 1945, now there are more of them than there are Welshmen or Ulstermen. I'm not going to go into whether this is a good or bad thing, but in countries (including the Irish Republic) where 80% of the citizenry even today can trace their ancestry back some 12,000 years to paleolithic settlers in Cheddar Gorge (the remaining 20% are of largely Nordic stock--Vikings, Danes and Normans who setlled here about a minimum of 950 years ago) this is a massive and unprecendented demographic bombshell.

Britain's stability in comparison to continental Europe owes a lot to the relative isolation which allowed it to be discerning about who did and did not come in from abroad and subsequent natural evolution of its institutions. Mass unintegrated waves of migrants generally destabilise and destroy the states of their hosts--this convention stretches right back to the time of the Romans or even the Jews who sacked Jericho. More recently we have the examples of European immigration to the Americas and Antipodes; most recently we have Han Chinese immigration to Inner Mongolia, Xinjiang and, of course, Tibet. Attempts to create heterogenous states out of the resulting ethnic and cultural mix generally results in their fracturing; see Czechoslovakia, the USSR and Yugoslavia.

Before we open the floodgates, as the author suggests, shouldn't we perhaps take a step back and consider whether we really want to permanently and irrevocably change the historic and cultural landscape of the Kingdom without any kind of a democratic mandate to do so?

carolt

vivatifosi wrote: »

It would be a shame if this board closes down. My favourite posters are posting less and less and we do need new blood. But we do have two choices:

1) let it die, with some of us decamping to Pastures' virtual place, or just plain getting a life..

2) fight back, put the drivel on ignore and just get on with reading the good stuff.

People have good reason for doing the first one, but lets not all give up on the second. They already think we're all loonies here, so let's not let the uber loonies take over our asylum.

Maybe because I'm still running a temperature, I just don't feel I can be bothered with all the abuse...

chucky will be thrilled.

chucky

carolt wrote: »

Maybe because I'm still running a temperature, I just don't feel I can be bothered with all the abuse...

chucky will be thrilled.

don't try and disrupt Kenny's good bye thread by involving me... pleeeeease stop i'm not interested in you and stop PMing me!!! :mad:

bernard_shaw

kennyboy66 wrote: »

I go into a fairly busy period at work for the next couple of months so my time is a bit limited...

Unlucky. If work was so great, the wealthy would keep it all for themselves.
(Sam Clemens, I think)

carolt

chucky wrote: »

don't try and disrupt Kenny's good bye thread by involving me... pleeeeease stop i'm not interested in you and stop PMing me!!! :mad:

You're completely mad.

I have never PM ed you as you well know.
Please get over your obsession with me. I don't know what it stems from, but it's extremely unhealthy. Please seek help.

Generali

PS I put in a kennyboy66 change of signature in your honour. Hope you like it.

PPS Is your username as in President Bush II calling Ken Lay (ex-Enron boss) 'Kenny Boy'?

PPPS Stop squabbling children. chucky, stop winding up carolt, you know she misses jokes. carolt stop getting the wrong end of the stick with jokes. It'll be the naughty step for the pair of you if you won't play nice.

carolt

Different senses of humour, clearly. Even without a temperature, I find chucky's endless repetition of the same 'joke' somewhat wearing. Indeed, strangely offensive.

It's like being stalked by a rat on heat.

Mr_Matey

Have a good holiday season Kenny and hopefully we'll see you back here when work quietens down.

Graham_Devon

Enjoy yourself Kenny. Make sure you come back!