Fined for holiday in school time

melancholly

just wondering why the thread has descended to the level of 5 year olds in a playground!

3 solid weeks.... a long single stretch and probably pushing beyond the limits of what can be argued as reasonable.... easier to pay up and probably the appropriate call from the school in this particular situation.

ckerrd

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Public school in Britain is posh private school like Eaton or Harrow or Gordonstoun not ordinary school PBS. Oposite of American English. Not being picky just explaining mate.

Gordonstoun is a private independent school. Fee paying schools in Scotland are known thus, not as public schools

shirlgirl2004

PolishBigSpender wrote: »

Are they attending on a private basis?

If so, I'd expect the average 5 year old to be *far* ahead of their peers in public school.

Yes we are paying for their education but anyone with a 2 year old in nursery will be paying. There is no state provision at 2 1/2. I didn't say my child is advanced in fact in some areas it is frustratingly hard to get her to pick things up. The point is most parents aren't dedicated enough to persevere and would just think the teachers can teach. All well and good but if you take them away for 3 weeks they will be missing what they should be learning.

I go back to the point that if you want the state to educate your child then you should stick to the rules. If you don't like the rules provide a permanent alternative yourself.

robin_banks

PolishBigSpender wrote: »

Are they attending on a private basis?

If so, I'd expect the average 5 year old to be *far* ahead of their peers in public school.

What makes you say this ?.

robin_banks

zara*elise wrote: »

Can someone please explain to me the educational value of riding a rollercoaster?

Maybe the reason we have so many demotivated, selfish, clueless and zombie-like children in this country is because their parents see taking three weeks off school as reasonable. How, please explain, can you teach a child of any age that comittment and dedication are important when you take them out of their scedule, because you feel like it?

I couldn't agree more, my sister has taken her eldest out of school twice already to go on holidays - he's 6 btw.

It's also a complete lack of respect shown to teaching and schools.

robin_banks

gabyjane wrote: »

zara*elise not all parents take thier kids on rollercoaster holidays though do they? I admit when dd was younger she went to Florida and we did the disney world etc BUT she also did a safari tour seeing lots of different animals, a tour of certain areas she may never visit again, churches, monastrys etc and still remembers them well from photos..in Feurteventura we went up to a part of it that was covered in snow which she had never seen before, priceless to see her face imo and not something seriously she could do here unless i take her up north at the mo!! not a huge lesson on anything practical apart from learning how to roll a snowball but hey!..so lots of holidays can be educational in thier own ways and a life experience for them.

The type that take children out of school are more likely to do so.

adouglasmhor

ckerrd wrote: »

Gordonstoun is a private independent school. Fee paying schools in Scotland are known thus, not as public schools

Thanks, I have heard the press refer to it as a Public School. I went to a grant aided independent for my primary education and then a comprehensive built round an established secondary modern. Nice to get the terminology correct.

Fly_Baby

Why all the fuss on the teachers' part about the child missing out on 3-weeks worth of education? It is not the teacher's child, after all. If the parent in question in fine with it then it's up to them how they deal with consequences: do some additional teaching at home, hire a private tutor or just accept that the child's end of year results are not going to be great. It is the parent's problem, after all, not the teacher's. Yes, bad results - if the child really doesn't catch up - can affect the school's rating but come on, there are less than average pupils in every class even if they don't miss school.

On a personal note, I do far more at home with my son in terms of education (English, maths, science, foreign language) than what he brings in as a homework, so I am sure that with some dedication from the parent any child can make up for the missed time.

After all, the parent can very nicely ask the teacher what they child missed and then cover it at home.

Edited to add: not that I approve of 3 weeks of holiday in the term time - but if bad consequences are predicted as a result then I honestly believe that for a 5 year old they can be rectified.

pie81

How about a deal: parents are allowed to take their kids out of school as much as they want, on condition that the parent then supports the child financially (i.e. child claims no unemployment benefit or income support) if the child fails to get a job after its patchy education ...

Fly_Baby

pie81 wrote: »

How about a deal: parents are allowed to take their kids out of school as much as they want, on condition that the parent then supports the child financially (i.e. child claims no unemployment benefit or income support) if the child fails to get a job after its patchy education ...

Surely it was a joke?

A person will hardly become unemployable ONLY because he missed a few weeks of schooling as a child. Should parents that ignore homework or don't help their child sufficiently should be made to provide for them for the rest of their lives too? Who is going to assess the extent of blame and on what grounds?

How about a teacher not paying enough attention/not pushing enough a particular child - for various reasons - should they be held responsible for the child's poor GCSE results and therefore financially liable?