rta

saver_1_2

i'll try and make this easy to understand. I was waiting in the front line of traffic the lights turned green for me i looked right it was clear so i set off a car which was going straight ahead [not turning left or right] came across the front of my car. The driver said she could not get across the road because of queing traffic so she waited past the stop sign just before the box junction when her lights had turned amber then red my lights turned amber red green i looked right all clear then set off it was only when i got in the middle of the road that this car came across the front of me.

Now i don't know about anyone else but to me the lady driver has caused the accident by 1. jumping a red light 2. Not waiting behind the stop line when her exit road ie straight on is blocked and 3. driving into vehicles that have got the right of way at a traffic light controled junction. She said she could not see if her lights had changed so went for it however i find this hard to belive as if she had looked across the road to her right there is a set of lights facing her even though she has gone past the stop line of one set she can look at another set

almillar

Either that's a huge junction, or the other lady must have had a wicked getaway! The police should have been out and there should have been a witness, but apart from that, there should be this loon in the middle of a junction hit by you, with a stream of cars behind you (proving that your light was green and hers was red).

Premier_2

saver_1 wrote: »

i'll try and make this easy to understand....

Allow me to make this even easier to understand. You

saver_1 wrote: »

...hit her off side wheel arch...

Although I still say it was her nearside unless you did some fancy manoeuvring or she was reversing.

saver_1_2

Appologies her near side.

When the collision occurred the lady carried on and parked up. I had to wait until the traffic behind me had been stopped by the lights for me to indicate and turn left to park up behind her instead of me carrying on my journey which was straight on. Traffic was passing me off side and near side from behind me.

flyingscotno1

saver_1 wrote: »

Now i don't know about anyone else but to me the lady driver has caused the accident by 1. jumping a red light 2. Not waiting behind the stop line when her exit road ie straight on is blocked and 3. driving into vehicles that have got the right of way at a traffic light controled junction. She said she could not see if her lights had changed so went for it however i find this hard to belive as if she had looked across the road to her right there is a set of lights facing her even though she has gone past the stop line of one set she can look at another set

Technically she did not jump the red light as she was past the stop line when the lights went to red. Whether she should have been is a different matter.

It is entirely possible to have a secondary close to the primary signal and thus someone passing the stop line not being able to see (indeed this is a recommended layout for a junction with a right turn arrow in the other direction, but I digress). In this instance it seems that there was a red light that could be seen.

The problem with the HC and box junctions is that actually stopping before the stop line can be difficult to judge these days. Take a typical junction- stop line then 4.5m cycle bay then 2m to signal pole with another 2m to yellow box then 25m to other side and it is quite difficult to judge and it can be difficult in modern traffic to ensure you are stopped behind the stop line and box junction- keeping the junction clear is good enough usually.

It does sound as if this person has taken a fly one and perhaps seen the lights going to red, couldn't be bothered waiting 90s and jumped right across the road, but difficult to prove. It could be a tricky one. Leave it to the insurers and let them handle it. The police are only interested in injury accidents if you have received medical attention- which I think you declined.

gsmmad

i am so confused as to how this crash happened.....

how ever making accusations about the person jumping lights will not hold up....the light may have been faulty and how can you assume her lights from your lights? The significance of the lights is very little if there are no witness's.

Secondly ambulance came but police didnt? I had a RTA 2 weeks ago where ambulance attended and police came within 1 minute of ambulance, all thought only ambulance was called.

Third, she admitted liability....do you have any proof....? Also how do you know she has not contacted her insurance? I think your overreacting and you have not done the best for yourself in this accident....

My advice would have been to take written or oral conformation of the admittance of liability, oral conformation via video camera or something. Then i would have suggested to take pics of the scene of accident, both vehicles and then look for solid witness's. Then depending on damage i would have either given it to my insurance or to a No win No fee. The problem with giving it to your insurance is, they will take your NCD away and take access from you, until all costs are recovered. Where as non of these would happen with a No win No fee, which take a lot longer to recover costs.

Now your best option is to wait and see what happens, there isnt much you can do. From the idea i got your at a crossroads junction. Your lights go green, your proceed on your route which is your right of way and collide with the rear passenger side of a car which comes from the road to your right, trying to enter the road to your left. There is a yellow box junction and the TP has stopped just before the entry to the yellow box in order to avoid being stuck in the yellow box. Then without due care attention she has attempted to complete her maneuver which was to cross the junction.

Now what i just said is true, then you are 100% no fault as far as negligence law goes which is the main law used in RTA's. You have not been negligent, you have made no mistakes. You are not at fault. This is all easy to say and easy to write. Very hard to prove without witness's. She can have a different view of events where she just drove straight and you hit her, and she doesn't know where you came from and her light was green. She never stopped at the yellow box because her road was clear....and because your story and her story cant lead to a conclusion. It will become a 50:50.

Just sit back, wait for her version of the events and go from there. There is nothing else you can do, you can go back to find a witness which is highly unlikely. Do not stress yourself anymore than you have, i know very very well how annoying these can be. Only time can sort these issues out.

saver_1_2

Thank you both for the two above posts.

I have contacted a lawyer about this and there are cameras at the sight.

Your question of how do i know she has not got in touch with her insures. I phoned them and they said she has not reported it. Apparently she has a week to.

I have timed the time it takes for her lights to change from amber and go to grren for me and it is 7 seconds and another4 seconds for me to get in the box junction from a standing start. I looked right and all traffic was stationary to my right. But as i said the camera will show what happend. And as the insurance comp said Let us sort it out

saver_1_2

:jAll sorted the other insurance company has admitted their driver was the cause of the accident and are in the proses of paying out for repairs and compansation:D

bikingbarney

thats good news!! i hope the insurers of the chap that hit me admit he was at fault!!

gsmmad

saver_1 wrote: »

:jAll sorted the other insurance company has admitted their driver was the cause of the accident and are in the proses of paying out for repairs and compansation:D

Im glad that got sorted and the TP didnt try to pull a fast one on you. Im dealing with a RTA myself where the TP is accusing me of speeding. I am 100% at no fault and the woman is claiming i was speeding with no proof. The police attended the site and there was no proof of me speeding. The damage to the cars clearly showed i was not doing anywhere near the legal limit as TP's damages were just a dent.

Now because she will not admit liability, i have to suffer a couple of months before getting my car repaired. Im not too fussed but i hate these type of situations. I know in my case its a 100% win for me, if TP's insurance do not admit liability on her behalf then we will have to go court. Where i am sure its a win for me. I doubt it will go that far. bikingbarney himself has been in a RTA where the TP is faulty. However if TP does not admit liability, then bikingbarney may have to settle on a 50:50 for a accident which he is not at fault.

RTA'S are always a pain!