UK Losing AAA rating...?...

Really2

Generali wrote: »

It's amazing how lax some places are.

For example, I happen to know that my login and password from a bank I resigned from in 2004 are still active. A temp who was fired just before I left still has an active account too.

I would put them in a catagory of high security risk any way. They would be just as likely to be hacked / defrauded by external sources not just current/ex-employees due to such lax security.

I would say any company who is so lax deserves the wake up call.

Really2

kabayiri wrote: »

Payload delivery is easier than ever. Lots of malware now has transmission capability in it, to affect other nodes.

You don't have to be a programmer, just to know where to get hold of this stuff.

But you have to know what you are doing the hard ware side of IT for over 15 years. I still would not know where to get malicious code from. And even with my knowledge I would still have to be working for the company to get past the fire wall as I could not hack past it. I would then have to also hope that the AV etc does not detect it before doing major damage.

I know what your are saying and I partly agree but it is not easy. Not easy like deleting or robbing the databases of an SME

chucky

Really2 wrote: »

I would put them in a catagory of high security risk any way. They would be just as likely to be hacked / defrauded by external sources not just current/ex-employees due to such lax security.

I would say any company who is so lax deserves the wake up call.

you would be very surprised how many high profile financial institutions are not with the programme on this.

kabayiri

chucky wrote: »

i'd agree with this - firms are more reactive with these issues instead of proactive. it will become even more apparent now - why spend your tight budget on stuff that may happen when you have more pressing issues to address.

It's weird chucky. Take a recent client. The main 'gates' were all secure; isolated WAN, decent firewall restrictions, full security review on the secure network etc. You can easily see where all the money is spent.

Then they almost dismiss help desk. I often find many issues going down that route.

Apologies, I suspect this is off track anyway, and it's not really something we should discuss in detail on a public forum.

kabayiri

Really2 wrote: »

I know what your are saying and I partly agree but it is not easy. Not easy like deleting or robbing the databases of an SME

You don't really need to rob data nowadays.

I can buy a whole host of data from offshore contacts. Leveraging that data takes thought, but it's not impossible.

Tbh, I am less interested in the network/machinery side of things, compared to the data these systems hold.

Really2

kabayiri wrote: »

You don't really need to rob data nowadays.

I can buy a whole host of data from offshore contacts. Leveraging that data takes thought, but it's not impossible.

Tbh, I am less interested in the network/machinery side of things, compared to the data these systems hold.

Problem with off shore data it all too often does not have the decision makers rellavent for your industry on it.

Company database are usually very tailored and easy to port over to a new company.

Offshore usually needs going over and gaining correct contacts.

Thrugelmir

Really2 wrote: »

Danger to over estimate it too do you not think. At least under estimating it is believing the youth can act with logic and responsibility and are not just thugs.
You have a low opinion of the majority of the young in this country. (I presume)

30 years ago it was 3 generations out of work not just 20% of 1 generation. The good things about family is that they remember the past to help the future.

I am sure there are many parents helping their children so they don't turn to the violence some of the users of this board crave.

I was merely expressing a contary view not necessarily my own.

It's easy to be smug and conceited from the comfort of ones own castle.

Really2

Thrugelmir wrote: »

It's easy to be smug and conceited from the comfort of ones own castle.

How is putting trust in todays young that they are cleverer than we were smug and conceited?

perhaps if you could explain why they are likely to riot and how todays education, life make them more likely to riot I am all ears. (or eyes).

It is easy to say their will be unrest, but a lot harder to put any substance behind why it would happen.
I think too many judge on there own history without looking at todays reasons.

The economys likely to riot like the 70's 80's would be the ones in the similar to the UK in that time. Emerging nations basically, which used to have a high proportion of manual labour workforce.

abaxas

Really2 wrote: »

How is putting trust in todays young that they are cleverer than we were smug and conceited?

perhaps if you could explain why they are likely to riot and how todays education, life make them more likely to riot I am all ears. (or eyes).

It is far easier to say their will be unrest. But a lot harder to put any substance behind why it would happen.
I think too many judge on there own history without looking at todays reasons.

Often people riot for no logical reason, some trigger sets someone off and everyone joins in.

Feelings and logic are not the same thing.

lostinrates

I've been looking for a rough idea of the extent of AAA rated stuff based in UK, and can't find anything.

Can anyone steer the uninitiated amoung us to something that could sugget how big this impact could be?