Anyone used Rointe heaters?

Mister_G

Just for info, LPG is currently 6.2p/kWh, cheapest fuel on the market - at the moment

You could still put in the wet system overspecced for ASHP, but power it from a £1000 LPG boiler for now.

gemini4378

Mister_G said:

Just for info, LPG is currently 6.2p/kWh, cheapest fuel on the market - at the moment

You could still put in the wet system overspecced for ASHP, but power it from a £1000 LPG boiler for now.

No gas in the area I'm afraid hence why it has electric heating. Other properties in the area are on oil I think.

lohr500

Mister_G is talking about LPG. This is like Calor gas and stored at your house in a tank of a similar size to an oil tank.

Regarding your question on underfloor heating : Wet underfloor heating systems require a network of pipes laying underneath the floors. This usually involves either raising the floor level in the rooms where it will be installed, or digging out existing floors to create more depth. Something that is not always easy to do in existing properties, particularly in upstairs rooms, or properties without solid ground floor foundations.

gemini4378

lohr500 said:

Mister_G is talking about LPG. This is like Calor gas and stored at your house in a tank of a similar size to an oil tank.

Regarding your question on underfloor heating : Wet underfloor heating systems require a network of pipes laying underneath the floors. This usually involves either raising the floor level in the rooms where it will be installed, or digging out existing floors to create more depth. Something that is not always easy to do in existing properties, particularly in upstairs rooms, or properties without solid ground floor foundations.

Oh sorry, didn't realise, I've never heard of that. Always been on mains gas or oil. I'll look into LPG. 

Ah ok and I thought it would be simple! I guess at a last resort large radiators could work with an air source heat pump and would be fine for now.

Thank you

lohr500

I don't know much about LPG but I think you choose a supplier and they install the tank for you. I believe that you are then contracted to that supplier for a number of years and can't shop around as you can for oil. I would do an internet search to find out more or call some LPG suppliers. No idea if you have to contribute towards the cost of the tank installation. 

Historically LPG was more expensive than oil but it looks like that is currently not the case. Again, how long this will be the case is anyone's guess.

You can't compare the price per litre directly because a litre of heating oil yields 10.35kW and a litre of LPG yields 7.08 kWh. That's before any efficiency loss from the boiler. So per litre, heating oil gives more heat output than LPG.

As far as the underfloor heating is concerned, it really depends on the construction of the property and how much disruption you can put up with.

Radiators would be fine and specifying ones that could cope with an ASHP in the future isn't a problem. They don't necessarily need to be any bigger in terms of length and height. Just double panels with double fins, rather than a single panel. 

QrizB

LPG and oil questions might be best asked on the "other fuels" forum:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/categories/lpg-heating-oil-solid-other-fuels

There are some long threads about LPG and oil already that might answer some of the questions you don't yet realise you have

TurkishTutor

Any advice please? We are looking to move and have seen a newbuild ( small development) which is heated by Rointe panel heaters, no gas, no woodburner, but will have 12 southfacing solar panels, 4.4kw, no battery.  2 storey house, 3 bed. No doubt fine in summer but what about winter? Would this be affordable given modern standards of insulation etc? We are two adults working from home, so at home most of the time.

BUFF

What does the EPC say?
How is hot water heated?

Cardew

TurkishTutor said:

Any advice please? We are looking to move and have seen a newbuild ( small development) which is heated by Rointe panel heaters, no gas, no woodburner, but will have 12 southfacing solar panels, 4.4kw, no battery.  2 storey house, 3 bed. No doubt fine in summer but what about winter? Would this be affordable given modern standards of insulation etc? We are two adults working from home, so at home most of the time.

A property heated by panel heaters - by any manufacturer - is the most expensive method of heating available.

Your solar panels will be of little benefit in the winter for heating.

Ectophile

Cardew said:

TurkishTutor said:

Any advice please? We are looking to move and have seen a newbuild ( small development) which is heated by Rointe panel heaters, no gas, no woodburner, but will have 12 southfacing solar panels, 4.4kw, no battery.  2 storey house, 3 bed. No doubt fine in summer but what about winter? Would this be affordable given modern standards of insulation etc? We are two adults working from home, so at home most of the time.

A property heated by panel heaters - by any manufacturer - is the most expensive method of heating available.

Your solar panels will be of little benefit in the winter for heating.

I think an electric boiler with radiators is even worse.  But panels heaters as the only heating is pretty bad.