Anyone used Rointe heaters?

penrhyn

Storage heaters using Economy 7, unless you have gas.

fishybusiness

Infared heating? Is this supposed to be the heating of the future?

There is much more to infrared than talked about here - I have two in my living room. Surface temp reaches up to about 110 C but they do not burn as there is very little stored heat energy.

You won't be able to fit out your house with Infrared for 2K.

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twiggster wrote: »

Hello there

I am seeking advice as this has been debated quite fiercely over the years.

We have just removed a solid fuel heating Rayburn from the house, as the OH deemed it too much hassle!

So now we have a wet CH system, with rads but with no power source. So what do I now go with?

Electric Combi Boiler? Electric Radiators? Panel Heaters? Air Source Pumps? Infared Heating?

We have a budget around £2000.

We have 2 small children so we have to take into account safety as well. I hear the panel heaters are quite hot to touch and with little ones running around might not be such a good idea?

Combi boiler? But I hear expensive to run and not as easy to regulate as having rads in each room with their own thermostat?

Infared heating? Is this supposed to be the heating of the future?

In short I need something that I can regulate with a timer and thermostat. Safe to have with children playing around.
Something that produces a "clean" heat etc, for example no burning smells of dust.
And lastly it looks Ok, pleasing to the eye!

I have been over these forums and my head is spinning, with what to choose???

Help!!!

I'm confused...

Am I right in thinking the wet CH system is what the rayburn was connected to?

Are you off mains gas grid?

What size is the house?

Have you calculated heat loss in each room so you know how much heat in needs?

There is a lot of information on the forum detailing the cheap to buy and dear to run also dear to buy cheap to run senarios with what each fuel costs.

Cheers

twiggster

Thanks for the replies

We havent got mains gas, quoted £20000 by National Grid.

The Rayburn used to heat the radiators but this is now been sold.

The bungalow is 10m x 10m and is well insulated.

We had a guy from Easy Heat to give us a quote, just to see how much and what the product was like, as we don't want a house full of oil fired radiators.

They quoted around £2000 ish.

Does the Infared heaters work well? I see they are quite expensive.

May look at installing either the flow or electric boiler..

Been put off gas and lpg by the original out lay cost and the unpredictable up's and downs of the oil price.

Just wondered if any one had experience of a house run by either electric panel heaters/radiators from Easy Heat or similar? electric boilers?

Thanks

penrhyn

Unless you are going for heat pumps and the like storage radiators are your best option. Panel radiators using day rate electricity are one of the most expensive methods around.

Owain_Moneysaver

Here's another supplier of this sort of heater with similarly dubious quotes.

Bright Heating is the UK’s sole supplier of these highly effective efficient storage radiators.

Electricity draw down is low, working out for many rooms at 4p per hour, per kilowatt.

Independent tests, both in the UK and Germany, show that to heat a large living room on a cold day with one of our 2KW German dynamic storage radiators to a steady and comfortable 71 degrees Fahrenheit will require electricity for only 17 minutes in every hour.

fishybusiness

Yup, and no accounts filed yet, hopefully they never will :beer:

Cardew

Owain_Moneysaver wrote: »

Here's another supplier of this sort of heater with similarly dubious quotes.

They also say on their brochure:

Our products come with a 25 year guarantee

Yet the installation pdf(apparently a straight translation from the German) states 10 years guarantee for the 'chamotte stones' and only 2 years for all the electronics.

Another firm that doesn't list prices of their radiators - except to say they are 'similar to the best night storage heaters'. Expect therefore to pay a lot after the Survey!!

This also is an interesting quote:

One 8 hour overnight charge on Economy7 = 3 days at 8 hours a day with German technology.

Now I wonder what message that is supposed to convey?

1. Nothing about cost!

2. Nothing about power consumption.

2. 8(eight) hours overnight charge on Economy 7 - which only gives 7 hours cheap off-peak electricity.

Yet another brochure full of meaningless statements IMO.

Ben84

Cardew wrote: »

Yet the installation pdf(apparently a straight translation from the German) states 10 years guarantee for the 'chamotte stones' and only 2 years for all the electronics.

The word warranty/guarantee is used a lot in marketing, but there are a variety of very different types I've encountered so far. I wonder how fixed a term it is and even if it has to apply to the whole item? In this example, with the bricks only being ten years and the electronics a rather minimal two years, I guess we're down to the case?

Garfy

Hi all.
At the risk of starting something can i interject with a question about all these so called energy saving radiators?
I am a refrigeration engineer so am well aware of the benefits of a heat pump system. However i run a renewable energy company supplying and fitting heat pumps, solar, thermal & electric works etc.

Living in the west country we get a lot of heating enquiries from people on either solid fuel, Oil or storage heaters. If suitable we'll look at a wet system using a heat pump or maybe if its one room an air con/ heat pump wall mount (now cleverly rebranded an 'air to air source heat pump'!

However sometimes none of our renewable solutions are suitable and electric heating is the only answer. This is an area we are looking to expand but have stumbled across a hornets nest with regrds to 'energy efficient electric heating'!

I'm well aware of the principles of 1kW in - 1kW out as we work with COPs all the time and yes electric heating can only ever be 1 to 1. However can i throw this spanner in the works and ask the following question:

Why cant an electric heater use a chemical that when heated with an element it produces more heat through the chemical reaction or indeed stores heat once reaching a desired temperature? I'm no advocate of any of the brands discussed in this thread but surely there must be some mileage in heating a chemical compound/fluid that enhances the energy being introduced??

Many thanks in advance. I'm very keen to hear your thoughts on this? Gareth