PCN-UK Ltd

dacouch

trisontana wrote: »

I have just received another very abusive message from the man . The way he has worded it proves he is reading this forum.

Of course he is reading this forum, you only have to look at the wholesale changes he has made to the FAQ section and he has also deleted the PCN-UK copied and pasted "Fact Sheet" on Bailiffs.

The following makes me laugh...

Q: Aren't PCN officers supposed to give 'a few minutes grace' before issuing a ticket?
A: No you are not permitted to stop for 'a few minutes' other than to set down or pick up passengers or load and unload goods (in the absence of any loading restrictions). A warden or parking attendant may observe a vehicle for a few minutes to see if any such activity is going on before issuing a parking ticket, but they are within their rights to issue the ticket as soon as an illegally parked vehicle is seen.



Note the use of the word illegally, this in my opinion is a breach of the Unfair Business Practices as the cars they are ticketing will in most cases not be breaking the law and will thus not be illegally parked.



P.S Gutted they deleted my "Cease and Desist" letter on this thread, don't worry I'll post a link to it when it comes up in a google seach cache.


P.P.S What are the chances of negoiations between MSE and PCN-UK about the previous thread and the link to the MSE advice on private parking tickets

trisontana

dacouch wrote: »

Note the use of the word illegally, this in my opinion is a breach of the Unfair Business Practices as the cars they are ticketing will in most cases not be breaking the law and will thus not be illegally parked.

He uses that phrase again on another page:-

"Unfortunately you were parked illegally on private land "

Another clear breach of Unfair Business Practices

biscuitdunker

dacouch wrote: »

P.P.S What are the chances of negoiations between MSE and PCN-UK about the previous thread and the link to the MSE advice on private parking tickets

It would be seriously disappointing.

dacouch

trisontana wrote: »

He uses that phrase again on another page:-

"Unfortunately you were parked illegally on private land "

Another clear breach of Unfair Business Practices

Seeing as he monitors MSE lets see how long it takes him to change the website when he reads this.

Ash's website refers that people are parking "Illegally", here is what the OFT regards as unfair with regards to collecting debts.

False representation of authority and/or legal position
2.3 Those contacting debtors must not be deceitful by misrepresenting their authority
and/or the correct legal position.

Incidently 2.8a is interesting when you through in the sending demands to the registered keeper of the vehicle when they may or may not have been the driver of the vehicle at the time of the ticket....

2.8 Examples of unfair practices are as follows:
a. sending demands for payment to an individual when it is uncertain that
they are the debtor in question, for example, threatening debt recovery
action to 'the occupier' or sending a payment demand to all people sharing
the same name/date of birth as a debtor in the hope that contact with the
correct debtor will be made.

Tozer

OK, enough is enough. What steps to be taken to close this chap down?

Bottom line is whereas we (appear) to have a little knowledge, others don't. This clown is making money wrongly from a lot of very innocent people.

I despise this sort of person. He is unlawful, tacky, cheap and an utter disgrace to humanity. there is a principle in law called locus standi which means that only someone who is affected can complain. I'm not affected - just annoyed.

In my view, we need to find a method of putting things right in this situation. My hopes that the "great" journalist Martin Lewis would put some publicity behind this sort of thing have been thwarted before so no hope there.

Any suggestions?

fb1969

Given the level of mis-information on the PCN-UK Ltd (or PCN-UK Limited) website, surely Trading Standards should be able take some sort of action?

ben501

Tozer wrote: »

only someone who is affected can complain.

Any suggestions?

Find out where he operates & receive a 'ticket' ?

If, as has been suggested, he has any sites in Lancashire I'd be happy to help

philatio

It seems he is Lancashire based.
I'm gonna ring Trading Standards on Monday and see if they're aware of him.

I see dr-who and all his posts have disappeared LOL.
Be on your guard guys for another newbie appearing and posting stuff to get the thread locked.
TRUST NO ONE.

peter_the_piper

fb1969 wrote: »

Given the level of mis-information on the PCN-UK Ltd (or PCN-UK Limited) website, surely Trading Standards should be able take some sort of action?

Regrettably, despite what you might think, TS are
a) not interested in ppc's unless one of their own bigwigs get clamped.
b) generally are totally misinformed and will tell all to pay and then appeal.
c) are not bothered if a website is misleading, unlawful or wrong and possibly do not have the remit to do anything even if it stares them in the face.

dacouch

Technically the local Trading Standards branch should investigate websites which breach the Unfair Business Practices, as it's a fairly new law they do not always invoke it and a lot of the public are not aware of it so do not report breaches.

http://www.berr.gov.uk/files/file46035.pdf