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Does Ireland class as Uk Or Abroad when it comes to benefits?

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  • dmg24
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    willa wrote: »
    Actually, Northern Ireland is part of the UK. Southern Ireland is not. Your statements could cause confusion. They may be innocently made but they could also cause some offence to the 'locals', Northern or Southern - can be a touchy subject Ireland, to the Irish. By the way, I am neither stalking you, nor holding any 'grudge' DMG (especially now that I can see you're a cat lover - lovely kitten!). The title of the thread caught my eye and I just had to clarify this.

    Northern Ireland and Ireland are entirely different countries, anybody that does not understand that needs to go back to school. We are dealing with facts relating to benefit law, not what the locals would like to happen (I might want England and the US to be the same country, the fact is that they are not).
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  • willa
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    edited 11 December 2009 at 11:31AM
    dmg24 wrote: »
    Northern Ireland and Ireland are entirely different countries, anybody that does not understand that needs to go back to school. We are dealing with facts relating to benefit law, not what the locals would like to happen (I might want England and the US to be the same country, the fact is that they are not).

    DMG I despair. That was exactly the point I was making. You are carelessly tossing remarks like 'Ireland is not part of the UK' about, begging the point to be made that, 'officially', there are in effect 2 Irelands - Southern and Northern. Your remark about the 'locals' was absolutely nothing to do with benefit law. If you are not a 'local' yourself, just be a bit more careful about what you say. You are strangely inferring my views from what I have said. You know nothing about my views. Please stop referring to 'the locals' - it is offensive.
    If you cannot understand my posts or deliberately twist them that is not my problem.
    And that is my final word on the matter.
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  • briona
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    willa wrote: »
    Actually, Northern Ireland is part of the UK. Southern Ireland is not. Your statements could cause confusion. They may be innocently made but they could also cause some offence to the 'locals', Northern or Southern - can be a touchy subject Ireland, to the Irish.
    If you don't want to offend the 'locals' (as you so charmingly call them), then you'd do well to remember that there is in fact no such place as "Southern Ireland". It is the Republic of Ireland or Éire, a country in its own right and a completely separate entity from Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK. :rolleyes:
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  • willa wrote: »
    DMG I despair. That was exactly the point I was making. You are carelessly tossing remarks like 'Ireland is not part of the UK' about, begging the point to be made that, 'officially', there are in effect 2 Irelands - Southern and Northern. Your remark about the 'locals' was absolutely nothing to do with benefit law. If you are not a 'local' yourself, just be a bit more careful about what you say. You are strangely inferring my views from what I have said. You know nothing about my views. Please stop referring to 'the locals' - it is offensive.
    If you cannot understand my posts or deliberately twist them that is not my problem.
    And that is my final word on the matter.
    If you would like to discuss this further please start a new thread on the discussion board, thanks for your co-operation :)

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  • adouglasmhor
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    The top of county Donegal is further north than anywhere in Northern Ireland. So southern Ireland is north of Northern Ireland. That makes sense
    willa wrote: »
    Have to disagree with you there DMG, (I'm qualified to and I'll leave it there!)

    Just say the North and the Republic and avoid this minefield
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  • willa
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    edited 11 December 2009 at 2:15PM
    briona wrote: »
    If you don't want to offend the 'locals' (as you so charmingly call them), then you'd do well to remember that there is in fact no such place as "Southern Ireland". It is the Republic of Ireland or Éire, a country in its own right and a completely separate entity from Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK. :rolleyes:

    I am not the one who was calling the Irish 'the locals'. Get your facts right! I call Eire Southern Ireland a lot of the time and I'm Irish and have family on both sides of the border so I think I'm qualified to comment thanks! Grrr!
    Yes adouglas, you are quite right, that is a bit weird, South but North.
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  • willa
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    edited 11 December 2009 at 2:19PM
    If you would like to discuss this further please start a new thread on the discussion board, thanks for your co-operation :)

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    I did make it clear that I was not going to enter into any further conversation with DMG.
    Alwaysonthego I have already reported you for bias and continually jumping on my posts in particular, or closing threads just after someone has had a go at me so I can't reply!
    I have absolutely no wish to start a contentious new thread on the thorny subject of Ireland thank you!
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  • adouglasmhor
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    This is a fun thead - Highland Scots were often called Irish untill the early 19th century and we don't even come from Ireland. That's strange as well. The Duke's of Atholl used to have "King of the Irish in Scotland" amongst their titles.
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  • Kimitatsu
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    dmg24 wrote: »
    Drogheda is in Ireland. Southern Ireland is a phrase used by the non Irish, and tends to really wind up the locals! ;)

    It is lol but having Irish roots and a temper to match I am told (all untrue!) I thought I had better clarify it was in the bottom bit
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