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"Taxes of Evil"

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  • zygurat789
    zygurat789 Posts: 4,263 Forumite
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    Danstar wrote: »
    Poll Tax was very fair, it is a tax per adult in a house. What people didn't like was the hike (if they had one). It was essentially designed to make sure every person paid their fair share for local council services etc. If the tax was too high your council was spending too much money.

    However, we live in the (higher rated) south of our town whereas our daughter lives in the (lower rated) north. We know from frequent trips between the two that far more money is spent in the south on facilities and services, to the extent that it is embarrassing. Such as 3 swimming pools to none.
    Why should the residents of the lower rated area pay for the amenities of the higher rated area? To benefit Maggie's blue rinse brigade?
    Poll tax was understood and seen to be potentially more unfair than rates.
    Since the majority of council spending is funded by central government it is often alledged that local council's are funded according to their political affilliation, so overspending is caused by central government allocating inadequate funding.
    The only thing that is constant is change.
  • zygurat789
    zygurat789 Posts: 4,263 Forumite
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    Absolutely: it should be reinstated with a considerable fee. And more for unnuetered dogs.

    And doubled for cats
    The only thing that is constant is change.
  • zygurat789
    zygurat789 Posts: 4,263 Forumite
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    lynzpower wrote: »
    What I find staggering is that the tax rebate you get for washing your own uniform at home is £8.00 a year if you earn under 40k, and £55pa is you earn OVER 40k.

    So those who earn more and therefore are more likely to be able to afford the routine washing of uniforms get more rebate whereas the poorer get less.
    Go figure
    Could you explain that please
    The only thing that is constant is change.
  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,249 Forumite
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    Artificial distinction between Income tax, NI and employers NI - they are all taxes on money that could otherwise come to the employee - why not just call a spade a spade?
    I think....
  • Fridge2
    Fridge2 Posts: 4,908 Forumite
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    Income Tax/National Insurance

    Coercive acts by the Govt and completely illiberal in concept.
    "None are more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsely believe they are free." - Goethe
  • pie81
    pie81 Posts: 530 Forumite
    National Insurance. It's just income tax by another name - they should at least be honest about it.

    VAT is all over the place: payable on tampons but not magazines. payable on housing repairs but not new build. payable on cakes but not biscuits (or is it the other way round?). Madness.

    My "favourite" tax (if such a thing is possible) is inheritance tax. I'd much rather pay tax on money I haven't earned than money I have. I wish one of the parties would propose 100% inheritance tax and an equal reduction in income tax.
  • Pobby
    Pobby Posts: 5,438 Forumite
    Fags `n booze:rolleyes:
  • Pobby
    Pobby Posts: 5,438 Forumite
    Oh for got. I quit smoking about 5 months ago. Just booze then!
  • zygurat789 wrote: »
    However, we live in the (higher rated) south of our town whereas our daughter lives in the (lower rated) north. We know from frequent trips between the two that far more money is spent in the south on facilities and services, to the extent that it is embarrassing. Such as 3 swimming pools to none.
    Why should the residents of the lower rated area pay for the amenities of the higher rated area? To benefit Maggie's blue rinse brigade?
    Poll tax was understood and seen to be potentially more unfair than rates.
    Since the majority of council spending is funded by central government it is often alleged that local council's are funded according to their political affiliation, so overspending is caused by central government allocating inadequate funding.

    Yes, but the aim was to reduce the size of central government and make local areas responsible for their own services thus decreasing the taxation burden on people and making local governments more efficient.

    You are right, people in the North shouldn't be paying for TfL or new leisure centers in the South but that was never going to be the case, one can't simply bring out the poll tax and immediately cut off all funding to local governments and route the poll tax to them and tell them to "deal with it".

    I understand where you and other people are coming from, saying it was regressive - which it was - but it would have been fair and equal. If a single man living in a 5 bedroom house he has bought he should have to pay 2/3x the tax of a 3 bedroom house with say 4 adults in as he doesn't use the same number of services as they do.
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    DKLS wrote: »
    Personally it would be a toss up between Council tax and IR35.
    My vote is for IR35.

    But technically, it is more of a stooopid tax, than an evil tax.
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