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Pre Budget: Boiler scrappage scheme planned

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Former_MSE_Guy
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edited 9 December 2009 at 2:09PM in Energy
This is the discussion thread for the following MSE News Story:

"The Chancellor plans to introduce a boiler scrappage scheme, similar to the car scrappage scheme, to help 125,000 households replace old boilers. "

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  • Canucklehead
    Canucklehead Posts: 6,254 Forumite
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    Good afternoon: £400 won't be much of an incentive for most folks...more here
    The question is...will this be another scheme administered by 'Warmfront':confused:

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    Ask to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)
  • Premier_2
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    edited 9 December 2009 at 3:04PM
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    Well assuming this is nothing to do with trading in the misses for a younger model! :D:eek:

    ... I think I'll keep with my faithful and trusted 20 year old gas boiler rather than trade it in for a new model only to be charged several hundred quid in a couple of years time when I'm told it needs a new circuit board.


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    "Each inefficient boiler adds over £200 to household bills and one tonne of carbon to the atmosphere," he said.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8403593.stm

    Presumably my 20 year old boiler isn't one of the inefficient ones then, because it doesn't even consume £400 worth of gas in a year, and about £30 - £50 of that is from the pilot light alone.
    "Now to trolling as a concept. .... Personally, I've always found it a little sad that people choose to spend such a large proportion of their lives in this way but they do, and we have to deal with it." - MSE Forum Manager 6th July 2010
  • beardybikeboy
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    'faithful and trusted'
    sounds great :) On the other hand, having just moved house I'm seriously tempted to get rid of the temperamental cash-leaching behemoth that is in it.
  • awdyouth
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    Fantastic idea! BUT
    Unlike the motor industry where it is easy to checkout the best buy, most efficient, lowest co2 cars on the market, The gas boiler manufactures offer no information.
    So Where do you start trying to find out the best boiler buy?
    A friend of mine had a condensing bioler fitted several years ago and rekoned his carbon footprint had gone up due to the number of times he,d had to call out an engineer,(engineers transit van 250g/km co2)
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  • Canucklehead
    Canucklehead Posts: 6,254 Forumite
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    awdyouth wrote: »
    Fantastic idea! BUT
    Unlike the motor industry where it is easy to checkout the best buy, most efficient, lowest co2 cars on the market, The gas boiler manufactures offer no information.
    So Where do you start trying to find out the best boiler buy?
    A friend of mine had a condensing bioler fitted several years ago and rekoned his carbon footprint had gone up due to the number of times he,d had to call out an engineer,(engineers transit van 250g/km co2)
    .

    Hi..not much difference in the efficiency of Band A boilers. A boiler is only as good as its installation and annual servicing....if your RGI follows 'Best Practice', installs the appliance according to manufacturer's specifications and the boiler has a long warranty then that is half the battle. As a starting point,choose a boiler with a stainless steel heat exchanger, have a magnetic filter fitted on the system eg. Boiler Buddy, Magnaclean (and a scale inhibitor if in a hard water area) ,ensure the system has a thorough chemical flush and the addition of CH inhibitor.

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    Ask to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)
  • Premier_2
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    From April, people with a home wind turbine or solar panels who plug their excess power into the national grid will receive on average £900 a year," Mr Darling said. "I intend to make this tax free."
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8403593.stm

    Wow, I'll stick one on the other side of the house opposite the Sky dish

    I don't have either at present, but could afford both the turbine & the Sky dish with that £900 a year.
    Somehow, I doubt it'll materialise though. :(


    Shame, just when B&Q appear to have stopped selling wind turbines too!
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  • Cardew
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    Premier wrote: »
    ... I think I'll keep with my faithful and trusted 20 year old gas boiler rather than trade it in for a new model only to be charged several hundred quid in a couple of years time when I'm told it needs a new circuit board.


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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8403593.stm

    Presumably my 20 year old boiler isn't one of the inefficient ones then, because it doesn't even consume £400 worth of gas in a year, and about £30 - £50 of that is from the pilot light alone.

    The car scrappage scheme as applied to boilers!!



    The Pre-Budget Report announces a £400 incentive to help up to 125,000 households upgrade their boiler
    , available to those who buy a new boiler or renewable heat unit to replace a working G-rated boiler. The Government will work with industry to launch the scheme at the earliest opportunity in 2010.

    Is your boiler G rated? mine is! LIst here:

    http://www.ofgem.gov.uk/Sustainability/Environment/EnergyEff/InfProjMngrs/Documents1/SEDBUK%20G%20Rated%20Boilers%20List.xls
  • stoneman
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    No thanks. If I change my boiler to a combi it will cost me a fortune. My central heating is such that it would need completely redoing, and all new rads probably as older rads tend to spring leaks when the pressure of a combi kicks in. And so what if it adds carbon to the atmosphere, there is no scientific proof that it is harmful anyway. You can guarantee that there is a money making element to this somewhere.
    The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.
  • Cardew
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    stoneman wrote: »
    No thanks. If I change my boiler to a combi it will cost me a fortune. My central heating is such that it would need completely redoing, and all new rads probably as older rads tend to spring leaks when the pressure of a combi kicks in. And so what if it adds carbon to the atmosphere, there is no scientific proof that it is harmful anyway. You can guarantee that there is a money making element to this somewhere.

    Why would you change a boiler to a Combi?

    When my 21 year old boiler packs in, it will be replaced with a normal boiler and I will retain my Hot Water tank.
  • jamtart6
    jamtart6 Posts: 8,302 Forumite
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    :( I'm gutted. We had our 25 year old boiler removed in February and want to replace it with a new more efficient one. The plumber took it away - but we haven't got the new one fitted (house renovation) yet.

    Do we assume I won't be eligible for the scheme without proof of an old boiler?

    :ABeing Thrifty Gifty again this year:A

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