Taxpayer funds familys £1,600 per week rent - The Times

elfen

ILW wrote: »

I just cannot understand why this government is intent on setting up a whole swathe of society where working is for mugs. Unless they see their voters there.

By the way, I worked from when I was 16 up until 2007 (8 years) I can't work now so I'm at uni, preparing for when I can work. All 4 of my sisters work, in jobs ranging from groundskeeping to management, to insurance systems analyst. My dad now works too, now he hasn't got so many kids to look after. We were brought up knowing a job is better than to be sat on your !!!! doing buggar all every single day. I don't vote Labour, and I never will, the policies they've brought in haven't changed anything, except making people stay on benefits for longer and having more kids as they'll think they'll get a bigger house. ILW, it looks like you just read the bits you wanted, instead of it all.

Harry_Powell

I wonder if either of Mum or Dad have ever had a job in this country? It seems to be the way that those who put the least in, get the most out. No doubt those 8 kids will grow up to realise that it pays to be shiftless in this country. Generations of layabouts spawning more layabouts until the welfare state collapses under the weight of it all.

lostinrates

urgh, trying to do entitled to and it involves pastures new type research...what do we think the council tax bill would be?

ILW

elfen wrote: »

By the way, I worked from when I was 16 up until 2007 (8 years) I can't work now so I'm at uni, preparing for when I can work. All 4 of my sisters work, in jobs ranging from groundskeeping to management, to insurance systems analyst. My dad now works too, now he hasn't got so many kids to look after. We were brought up knowing a job is better than to be sat on your !!!! doing buggar all every single day. I don't vote Labour, and I never will, the policies they've brought in haven't changed anything, except making people stay on benefits for longer and having more kids as they'll think they'll get a bigger house. ILW, it looks like you just read the bits you wanted, instead of it all.[/QUOTE]

Sorry if I am missing something, but we seem to be in complete agreement.

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

urgh, trying to do entitled to and it involves pastures new type research...what do we think the council tax bill would be?

You can look it up based on the postcode. https://lha-direct.voa.gov.uk/Secure/Default.aspx

Then there's the "how many rooms you are entitled to" listing
https://lha-direct.voa.gov.uk/Secure/LHASearchIntro.aspx - once you tick the box the bedroom calculator is enabled.

drc

Harry_Powell wrote: »

I wonder if either of Mum or Dad have ever had a job in this country? It seems to be the way that those who put the least in, get the most out. No doubt those 8 kids will grow up to realise that it pays to be shiftless in this country. Generations of layabouts spawning more layabouts until the welfare state collapses under the weight of it all.

To be honest, I wonder if they actually speak any English? With all the various leaflets and documents translated into dozens of languages there is really no requirement anymore to learn the langugage of their chosen homeland.

ILW

I wish someone would actually come on here and attempt to defend this. It all seems a bit one sided.

lostinrates

Ok, leaving out the council tax saying one child under 1, one parent 40, one parent 42 (I don't know why I chose those ages...I just did);
Tax Credit Award

Period:06/04/2009-06/04/2009annual £ weekly £ Initial
Tax Credit award for period:£44.41£310.87
Working Tax Credit:£0.00£0.00
Child Tax Credit:£44.41£310.87
Final Tax Credit award for period:£44.41£310.87
Working Tax Credit:£0.00£0.00
Child Tax Credit award:£44.41£310.87
Period:07/04/2009-05/04/2010

annual £ weekly £ Initial Tax Credit award for period:£18,942.56£364.28
Working Tax Credit:£0.00£0.00
Child Tax Credit:£18,942.56£364.28
Final Tax Credit award for period:£18,942.56£364.28
Working Tax Credit:£0.00£0.00
Child Tax Credit award:£18,942.56£364.28

The next section (moving on to housing costs) it will not accept the figure and simply tells me I need to enter a decimal point! Entered weekly as £1956



Entitlementper yearper weeknotesMeans-tested income entitlements
Tax Credits-Initial Tax Credit£18,994.60£364.28
Weekly amount shows the estimated award for period 07/04/2009 to 05/04/2010.
The annual amount shows the estimated award for the full tax year.
Tax Credits£18,994.60£364.28Child tax credit.
JSA£5,263.82£100.95Assumes adult-only JSA(IB).
Means-tested bill reductions
Housing Benefit£83,220.00£1,596.00
You should not have to pay rent as you qualify for full Housing Benefit.

For more information on what qualifies see eligible rent for Housing Benefit
Our calculation is based on you receiving £364.28 from child tax credit.
Other income entitlementsChild Benefit£5,860.85£112.40

Total Entitlements£113,339.27 £2,173.63 weekly

my goodness....presuming no other savings/payments etc. I'm stunned. I'm absolutely stunned. Please tell me this is wrong? lemonjelly...where are you? Is this right?

ETA:You may also qualify for:

• Social Fund
• Free school meals
• Funeral Grant
• NHS Low Income Scheme

Harry_Powell

ILW wrote: »

I wish someone would actually come on here and attempt to defend this. It all seems a bit one sided.

This couple will tell everyone back home in Somalia how kind and generous the British are, it'll foster excellent links between these two great countries. It will also encourage immigration of people from that world renouned technically and academically advanced country, helping to keep Great Britain at the forefront of science.

This can only be good for the British people. It's worth this money twice over.

zygurat789

These figures are non taxable and to get this in your pay packet you would need to earn £176,630 pa.