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gosnis

jambosans wrote: »

I was merely responding to your rather generalised comment about news media, and wondered where you gained an undistorted view of "true world and life events". I assumed - as you suggested viewing a video online - that the Internet was your source of knowledge, to which I pointed out, is generally considered a poor sole point of reference.



You strike me as one of these "Tower 7 was blown up by the US Government"* conspiracy kind of people, so I'm not sure how well sourced your post about banking is. To pick you up on one piece of information, according to the Bank of England's own website, it is not privately owned.
Or is this a cover-up?

I'm not trying to mock you, but as I've indicated, you come across very "take the Redpill"* and I generally don't buy into all the sensationalist conspiracy theory nonsense.

*Ironically I have pointed you to an online source, Wikipedia, for more details on these topics. I'm not to fussed about their accuracy as they are rather general pieces of information.

If you had bothered to visit Dun & Bradstreet, you would see that The Bank of England is a privately owned corporation, trading on the international markets, for the profits of its shareholders and owners.
You haven’t investigated anything have you; you are just repeating something which has been told to you.

So how can you find the truth, when you do not even consider for a moment that you might be wrong?

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jambosans

gosnis wrote: »

If you had bothered to visit Dun & Bradstreet, you would see that The Bank of England is a privately owned corporation, trading on the international markets, for the profits of its shareholders and owners.

Perhaps if you linked to the sources of your information I could read for myself. Googling Dun & Bradsheet brings a company on the below link, on a brief read, I cannot see the link with The Bank of England.

http://www.dnb.co.uk/about-dnb.asp

gosnis wrote: »

You haven’t investigated anything have you; you are just repeating something which has been told to you.

Even investigative fact finding is "repeating something which has been told to you", so I fail to see your point. I have not "investigated" The Bank of England, I took a statement from their website indicating they are a wholly-owned public organisation. If you would like to link me to something that contradicts this statement, I would gladly have a look - this is called "counter-argument". I have provided links to primary sources, you have not, the ball is very much in your court so to speak.

gosnis wrote: »

So how can you find the truth, when you do not even consider for a moment that you might be wrong?

As mentioned before, I take an impartial view, and in doing so, I never consider myself "right" unless supported by information which backs up my claim.

Perhaps you could explain the cover-up which I am clearly too "blind" to see? As it stands, I do not see why The Bank of England would post false information on their own website.

gosnis

jambosans wrote: »

Perhaps if you linked to the sources of your information I could read for myself. Googling Dun & Bradsheet brings a company on the below link, on a brief read, I cannot see the link with The Bank of England.


Even investigative fact finding is "repeating something which has been told to you", so I fail to see your point. I have not "investigated" The Bank of England, I took a statement from their website indicating they are a wholly-owned public organisation. If you would like to link me to something that contradicts this statement, I would gladly have a look - this is called "counter-argument". I have provided links to primary sources, you have not, the ball is very much in your court so to speak.



As mentioned before, I take an impartial view, and in doing so, I never consider myself "right" unless supported by information which backs up my claim.

Perhaps you could explain the cover-up which I am clearly too "blind" to see? As it stands, I do not see why The Bank of England would post false information on their own website.

I cannot post links, as I am a new member to this forum (I will try below).
If you do a company search on Dun & Bradstreet [FONT=&quot](dnb DOT co DOT uk) [/FONT] you can find The Bank of England, trading as The Old Lady Threadneedle Street.
Their is a charge for there service of course.

Here you can also find all the supposed peoples government organisations such as:
- Police Forces
- Her Majesties Revenue and Customs
- Local Councils
- Courts
- Ministry of Justice

You find that some of these privately owned Corporations also have CCJs against them.
I recall Liverpool Council having more than 10 against them!


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natweststaffmember

Gnosis I did a search and it asks for personal information which I won't provide. At the moment, I still cannot find the evidence. For example, The Bank Of England is known as the old lady of threadneedle street. Whilst I appreciate you cannot post links at the moment, I am still finding it hard to substantiate this without the need to go to the website you suggested. Do you have any other sources that could be used instead?

esmerellda

Not that I get the relevance whatsoever but there you are.

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/share_holders#incoming-54301


Thank you for your email dated 9 October in which you ask the following questions under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 ('FoI Act'):

'Does the Bank of England have shareholders? If the Bank does have share holders who are they?'

The Bank of England is the central bank of the whole of the UK and was established as a corporate body by Royal Charter under the Bank of England Act 1694. The Bank was nationalised on 1 March 1946, and gained operational independence to set interest rates in 1997. The Bank is a public sector institution wholly-owned by the government - the entire capital of the Bank is, in fact, held by the Treasury solicitor on behalf of HM Treasury.

'If the Bank of England has share holders do they get paid dividends, and what was the value of dividends paid in the past five years?'

The Bank of England Act 1946, as amended by the Bank of England Act 1998, requires the Bank to pay to HM Treasury, in lieu of dividend on the Bank's capital, on the fifth day of April and October (or prior working day), a sum equal to 25% of the Bank's post-tax profit for the previous financial year or such other sum as the Bank and HM Treasury may agree. The overall effect is that the Bank and HM Treasury will normally share post-tax profits equally. Further information can be found in the Bank's Annual Report and Accounts which are available on our website at www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/ann... back to 2001.

'Does any of the policy and/or decision makers within the Bank of England hold positions of any kind in any commercial banks or companies? If so who are they and what commercial entity do they hold positions in, and in what capacity/position do they hold in both the commercial entity and the Bank of England?'

The Bank's Court of Directors (Governor, two Deputy Governors and nine non-executive directors) is responsible for managing the affairs of the Bank, other than the formulation of monetary policy. External positions held by members of Court are published on our website at www.bankofengland.co.uk/about/people/cou...

The Governors and executive management do not hold positions in commercial banks or companies outside their duties for the Bank of England.

For further information on the Bank's governance framework please visit our website at www.bankofengland.co.uk/about/governance...

'Does the Bank of England have 'Member Banks' and if so which banks are these?' The Bank of England is the central bank of the UK and does not have any member banks.

Yours sincerely

Stuart Allen
Deputy Secretary of the Bank



Other stuff on whatdotheyknow as well which is worth reading.

Check out the conspiracy theorists on the Wirral Borough Council FOI's too.

gosnis

natweststaffmember wrote: »

Gnosis I did a search and it asks for personal information which I won't provide. At the moment, I still cannot find the evidence. For example, The Bank Of England is known as the old lady of threadneedle street. Whilst I appreciate you cannot post links at the moment, I am still finding it hard to substantiate this without the need to go to the website you suggested. Do you have any other sources that could be used instead?

I have explained how to source the proof, visit the website, search for the companies, see for yourself. I can do no more than this. The rest is up to you.

natweststaffmember

gosnis wrote: »

I have explained how to source the proof, visit the website, search for the companies, see for yourself. I can do no more than this. The rest is up to you.

I did the search as you stated and it required that I put my details into it and that someone would call me in 12 hours. I don't want anyone to call me and I don't want my personal details given to anyone, I just want the facts that I can verify. I don't have to do that with Companies house which I did search under your titles given and got nothing. Gnosis, unless you have another source then unfortunately that stuff you posted is unverified. As stated before, I searched the site you asked and it wanted my details. Why does it want my details or am I searching wrongly? I won't register and I don't want them to call me. I don't have anything by following what you have said so you NEED another source or better instructions

gosnis

natweststaffmember wrote: »

I did the search as you stated and it required that I put my details into it and that someone would call me in 12 hours. I don't want anyone to call me and I don't want my personal details given to anyone, I just want the facts that I can verify. I don't have to do that with Companies house which I did search under your titles given and got nothing. Gnosis, unless you have another source then unfortunately that stuff you posted is unverified. As stated before, I searched the site you asked and it wanted my details. Why does it want my details or am I searching wrongly? I won't register and I don't want them to call me. I don't have anything by following what you have said so you NEED another source or better instructions

Unverified by someone who is unwilling to verify it for themself?
I have told you all that you need to know.

Orford

gosnis wrote: »

Unverified by someone who is unwilling to verify it for themself?
I have told you all that you need to know.

There you are, all the proof you need. Gosnis, I can't understand why anybody doubted you at all.

gosnis

Orford wrote: »

There you are, all the proof you need. Gosnis, I can't understand why anybody doubted you at all.

Very cunning, but detracting from the point.

You have to see it, to believe it.