Help with maths..(working out bill)

gabyjane

Sheesh who would have thought this would still be going lol!!

jimmythewig..all my kids i have (8 of them infact) are very easy to bill and i have done fine for almost 5 years..this odd request of 20 past just threw me and so i said to the parent I am going to bill you as of 8-30 as easier than faffing with 10 mins..she was happy with this as saves her money (loads i know we both laughed really!)and i am happy as it is easier for me to work out..(i know lots will disagree but hey)..so when they arrive the attendance book is signed off at 8-20am (assuming they arrive then!) and logged out at xxx...the billing however is from 8-30-x..Ofsted are not interested in money at all (i found this out when i handed her my income book on my first inspection!)..HRMC can inspect me all they like i have nothing to hide!..infact on the contract i have stated charged from 8-30 and in my letter to her attatched also stated is this..i have said as of Jan 2010 though all bills will be rounded to the nearest quarter of an hour..job done!
Thanks for the reply..

Lunar_Eclipse

This thread has made me laugh.

But more than that, I'm wondering why you aren't charging at least minimum wage? A good childminder, ie one that provides an intellectually stimulating, active and varied programme of activities in a caring environment that does not include much daily TV and biscuits (unless they're homemade, organic and sugar free ), would actually be worth a lot more than minimum wage, in my opinion. I never found that person, but it just struck me that your hourly rate is incredibly low. It starts at between £6 & 7/hour where I live!

ETA: The childminder we almost went to charged £6.60/hour when we were looking 6 years ago. There was some discount for siblings, but I can't recall the detail.

gabyjane

Lunar_Eclipse wrote: »

This thread has made me laugh.

But more than that, I'm wondering why you aren't charging at least minimum wage? A good childminder, ie one that provides ), would actually be worth a lot more than minimum wage, in my opinion. I never found that person, but it just struck me that your hourly rate is incredibly low. It starts at between £6 & 7/hour where I live!

ETA: The childminder we almost went to charged £6.60/hour when we were looking 6 years ago. There was some discount for siblings, but I can't recall the detail.

I hope you are not suggesting that i don't provide an intellectually stimulating, active and varied programme of activities in a caring environment that does not include much daily TV and biscuits (unless they're homemade, organic and sugar free??
Unfortunatly you have to charge in line with what other childminders charge..put yourself up and over the top for where you live parents will use others..unfortunatly cheap childcare is what most people tend to look for imo (or whrere i live anyway)..i have been undercut by a friend of mine in the past over prices..says it all really!
Let me guess you are in London or up country somewhere? you would be shocked to hear that some minders across the country charge around the £2-50 per hour mark..now for that i wouldnt get out of bed!
Also another reason we can charge what some think is so little is due to having (hopefully!) more than 1 child..i have 8 on my books (not all at once!) so you do the maths!

skintchick

gabyjane wrote: »

I hope you are not suggesting that i don't provide an intellectually stimulating, active and varied programme of activities in a caring environment that does not include much daily TV and biscuits (unless they're homemade, organic and sugar free??
Unfortunatly you have to charge in line with what other childminders charge..put yourself up and over the top for where you live parents will use others..unfortunatly cheap childcare is what most people tend to look for imo (or whrere i live anyway)..i have been undercut by a friend of mine in the past over prices..says it all really!
Let me guess you are in London or up country somewhere? you would be shocked to hear that some minders across the country charge around the £2-50 per hour mark..now for that i wouldnt get out of bed!
Also another reason we can charge what some think is so little is due to having (hopefully!) more than 1 child..i have 8 on my books (not all at once!) so you do the maths!

You'd better; maths isn't the OP's strong point.




JOKE, by the way, not a dig, just couldn't resist!

Lunar_Eclipse

gabyjane wrote: »

Also another reason we can charge what some think is so little is due to having (hopefully!) more than 1 child..i have 8 on my books (not all at once!) so you do the maths!

I wasn't suggesting anything about your childminding service, just saying what I'd want to buy as a customer, which would be the best childcare available, not a regular babysitting service. And for people offering that, we'd pay more.

I'm in the Home Counties, I think London could top the £10/hour rate.:o

And yes, we know Maths isn't your strong point.

ETA: I understand all that but still think minimum wage should be the hourly rate (for every child/family) since that is how you structure your costs to each customer - by the hour.

gabyjane

Lunar_Eclipse wrote: »

I wasn't suggesting anything about your childminding service, just saying what I'd want to buy as a customer, which would be the best childcare available, not a regular babysitting service. And for people offering that, we'd pay more.

I'm in the Home Counties, I think London could top the £10/hour rate.:o

And yes, we know Maths isn't your strong point.

ETA: I understand all that but still think minimum wage should be the hourly rate (for every child/family) since that is how you structure your costs to each customer - by the hour.

I agree completely but unfotunatly it is not how CM work over most of the country. If i earnt minimum wage for my kids i wouldnt have a second job!..it doesn't make us babysitters because we have an amount to work by does it?..it also has no reflect on the service parents recieve either.

gabyjane

skintchick wrote: »

You'd better; maths isn't the OP's strong point.




JOKE, by the way, not a dig, just couldn't resist!

Haha very funny!!:T

ginvzt

Lunar_Eclipse wrote: »

I'm in the Home Counties, I think London could top the £10/hour rate.:o

Although I earn above average salary (we both do), if we had to pay £10/hour for childcare, we just wouldn't be able to do that, as per month it would work out more that either of us brings home!!! (We don't have children yet, so can' comment on prices in my area)

JimmyTheWig

Especially if you had more than 1 child!

gabyjane

I agree..my parents struggle now paying me at times!! i earn a good wage and am happy with what i get..we are like nurserys and dont charge much less (some more) but if i only had one mindee i wouldn't be very well off!
It does vary hugely..as do nursery fees depending on where you are.