Better to go with CSA in these circumstances

maggied_2

I've been on entitledto - all I know is that she works at a hospital near us, from what DSD says she's a Healthcare Assistant. Putting some basic figures into entitled to:

@ £8K per year she gets £347.76 pw (net salary + CB + CTC + WTC) or £1506.96 pcm

@£10k per year she gets £359.34 pw (same) or £1557.14 pcm

@ £15k per year she gets £388.30 (same) or £1682.63

I was in my chosen profession for several years before I took home that kind of money!! (although obviously I didn't have two children to take care of before anyone says anything).

With the CM on top I don't really see how she can be 'skint' on this. I think her rent's around the £550-600 mark.
She's adamant she doesn't get HB / LHA (whichever it's called) but even so....

I know this isn't actually any of my business but I don't see why she should guilt trip my OH into paying more.

OH has just come in and said X's mother has called to say she's sick of all this and would OH consider paying half of the school dinners? He has declined the kind offer....

marksoton

What a sad pathetic excuse for a mother. :rolleyes:

Personally i would make it formal and go down the CSA route. I would also not give the woman a single penny extra.

maggied_2

OH is at the solicitors now so will hopefully have some news on that side of things tonight.

OK - if we were to go down that route - do we actually go through the CSA or just use the calculator and inform her of her new amount?

speedster

i personally think the money/csa is a secondary issue here. also, if there was a case opened originally, you would have known by now. wouldn't hurt to apply for your DP files to clarify though.

it wont matter how much money you throw at an idiot like that, it will never be enough for her.

the threats of contact blocking if she doesn't get her own way, just go to prove she has "ownership issues". the same as a lot of horror stories you red about (and mine)

if you can avoid csa and the court route, i would highly recommend you do. however.........

if she's threatening it and threatening cutting contact, you may have no choice but go to battle on both fronts.

firstly, if she chooses the csa, make it clear that you will ONLY deal with them. you will pay exactly what they request and not a penny more. i have this row with my ex. she chose the csa, so she's made her bed, she can lay in it.

next is court. again, avoid if possible, but if she's threatening/carrying out contact blocking, then again, you have no choice.

dads uk have macenzie firends who can help and are a darn sight cheaper and more efficient than a greedy lowlife solicitor.

speedster

maggied wrote: »

OH is at the solicitors now so will hopefully have some news on that side of things tonight.

OK - if we were to go down that route - do we actually go through the CSA or just use the calculator and inform her of her new amount?

yep. and stick to that amount.

this will be the amount the gov have deemed he pays. make it clear she will not get a penny on top.

maggied_2

Thanks Speedster. I realise you have some quite serious issues with your ex from your other posts.

However, can you pleeeeeeeeease take that awful 'w' word out of your signature

You're letting it sound like she's damaged you waaaay too much.

I've no time for witches like our PWC - neither have I time for tools who don't support their own children - good and bad on bith sides, y'know

Kimitatsu

You could also go down the CSA route and then put it into suspension, that way you really have all bases covered. If she starts to play up again you can just reinstate it, it sounds a terrible thing but unfortunately with some people you have to fight like with like.

I would check if you are eligible for legal aid if you have to go down the court route. The courts like to see evidence that you have tried mediation and if it has not worked then court is the only option. If you can get legal aid then I would go down the solicitor route first just because they have a standing in the court. McKenzie friends are not supposed to be able to talk to the court on your behalf at all, although some courts do allow them a hearing (really depends on your judge and how confident your OH is sitting before a family court).

speedster

the csa route is down to the pwc. nrp cannot force the pwc to go through the csa.

legal aid solicitors tend to be sheite. i had 2 and they were both useless. tried billing me afterwards too!! strangely enough, he wasn't confident enough to take me to the small claims court either.

macenzies are a heck of a lot cheaper and often a better option than a solicitor. sols tend to drag the case out for as long as they can to line their pockets. they're generally scumbags and family law attracts an even more morally corrupt type as they prey on desperate fathers who'll give their right arm to see their kids.

i know of guys who've paid upwards of 20k and haven't been as sucessful as me going LIP.

a lot of courts are now realising the importance of macenzies, so stick the details on the form and see if they'll allow one.

Kimitatsu

speedster wrote: »

the csa route is down to the pwc. nrp cannot force the pwc to go through the csa.

Either parent can ask the CSA to intervene:

Who can apply for maintenance through the CSA?

A parent or person with care or a non-resident parent can ask us to work out child maintenance and set up a payment arrangement.
In some circumstances, we may not be able to accept an application. For example, we may not accept cases where:

• the parent with care or the children are living abroad, or
• the non-resident parent lives abroad and does not work for a UK-based employer, the civil service or the armed forces, or
• a court order instructing the non-resident parent to pay child maintenance was made before April 2003, or
• a court order covering child maintenance was made after April 2003 but has not been in force for 12 months, or
• there is a written maintenance agreement which was made before 5 April 1993.

If there is an existing court order or written maintenance agreement (as described above) and either parent wants to change it, you should apply to the court where the maintenance arrangement was m

maggied_2

Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.:T

Haha - much prefer it (and hope it wasn't a thinly veiled dig at me:p)

the csa route is down to the pwc. nrp cannot force the pwc to go through the csa

^This contradicts what an earlier post said. Which is true? If we can't do this then we'll have to stick with the current set up financially and hope the CO sticks (hollow laugh....)

ETA - sorry, cross posted Kimitatsu