What HDMI cable???

nitr02007

Moving or copying digital data does not affect its content.

Imagine copying a video file from your hard disk to a USB memory stick. Would you expect the price of the USB stick to affect the contrast on the video or make the sound muffled? Of course not - the medium does not affect the data.

Unless the HDMI cable is faulty the TV will recieve an exact copy of the data sent by the blu-ray player. Simple.

aliEnRIK

nitr02007 wrote: »

Moving or copying digital data does not affect its content.

Imagine copying a video file from your hard disk to a USB memory stick. Would you expect the price of the USB stick to affect the contrast on the video or make the sound muffled? Of course not - the medium does not affect the data.

Unless the HDMI cable is faulty the TV will recieve an exact copy of the data sent by the blu-ray player. Simple.

Error correction on a computer is COMPLETELY different from a hdmi

But of course you knew that already

nitr02007

Marty_J wrote: »

Not necessarily. There can be problems in the digital transmission of data. But when problems occur, they won't show up as some wishy-washy loss of definition or smearing of the stereo image. There will be patently obvious audible glitches that a 5 year old could spot.

Indeed - either it works perfectly or there will be a instantly noticable problem.

Seems like we're past a lot of peeps bedtimes..

aliEnRIK

nitr02007 wrote: »

Indeed - either it works perfectly or there will be a instantly noticable problem.

Seems like we're past a lot of peeps bedtimes..

Thats not true at all. Ive got a bookmark somewhere where the digital signal 'measureably' began to fail but they couldnt notice anything OBVIOUS (ie, flickering, dropouts, snow etc)
Further to that, because of the way the error correction works it will tend to change the colour of the pixel rather than fail alltogether which is how 'digital smearing' comes about.
Which is why I stand by what I say that when they do begin to fail those with half decent eyesight WILL tell a difference
(I have plenty of mates for example with eyesight so bad they cant tell the difference from SD to HD!!)

Marty_J

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Error correction on a computer is COMPLETELY different from a hdmi

But of course you knew that already

I'm just impressed that people think randomly introduced errors can produce an approximation of what they want to see or hear.

If a cable isn't working properly, it seems almost magical that these random errors can produce a picture that's the same as the error-free version, only with washed out colours or a lack of edge definition.

nitr02007

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Error correction on a computer is COMPLETELY different from a hdmi

But of course you knew that already

There's no error correction via HDMI so any errors will be immediately apparent as corruption in the video or audio. So if there's no errors in the data stream then the TV will recieve exactly what the blu-ray player has sent - which leaves no room for subjective differences.

aliEnRIK

nitr02007 wrote: »

There's no error correction via HDMI so any errors will be immediately apparent as corruption in the video or audio. So if there's no errors in the data stream then the TV will recieve exactly what the blu-ray player has sent - which leaves no room for subjective differences.

Completely wrong

Toxteth_OGrady

The ultimate quandary/debate to stimulate the thread for another 10 pages or so:

Would a Mac connected to an HD TV with DVI/HDMI converter and no-name, cheap HDMI cable produce a better picture than a Windows PC connected to the same TV with an exorbitantly priced Monster (or similar) HDMI cable? Discuss. :eek:

:cool:

TOG

nitr02007

Marty_J wrote: »

I'm just impressed that people think randomly introduced errors can produce an approximation of what they want to see or hear.

If a cable isn't working properly, it seems almost magical that these random errors can produce a picture that's the same as the error-free version, only with washed out colours or a lack of edge definition.

Exactly. Surely everyone's seen Freeview. Either its working properly and you're getting EXACTLY what the broadcaster has sent - or you've got very noticable problems, stuttering, freezing, pixellation, etc.

Digital signal corruption doesn't give these tiny subjective differences people on this thread have described.

aliEnRIK

nitr02007 wrote: »

Digital signal corruption doesn't give these tiny subjective differences people on this thread have described.

And yet 'measureably' they do. Odd that :rolleyes: