New advice dept of health-storing formula milk(baby bottles)

essexhoney

bobber wrote:

Hello essexhoney

Not sure whether you've heard of it, but heres also SMA LF for babies who are lactose intolerant, which isnt soya based. My LO has had it on prescription from 10 weeks (shes now 7 months) and it honestly changed her completely over night. She slept through on the first night of having it which was a bonus!

It is pricey - you can get it from larger Boots or order from any chemist - about 5.99 for a small tub. But luckily for us both the GP and HV actually saw her having her screaming 'fits' and purple face from the pain at the surgery and they were shocked to find out she was like that after every feed, so we did a trial and then it was put on prescription immediately.

Hiya i found out about this recently. Though on further investigation its main purpose from what i have been told by various different health professionals is that it is there as more of a choice for mothers who dont want to give there child lactose and was advised to stay with the wysoy as both of my 2 were diagnosed with being lactose intolerant

funky-footprints

*Louise* wrote:

I think that is terrible - not everyone wants or is able to breastfeed, and it's a mother's choice to make, not the hospitals.

My wee one would have starved when he was born if my hospital had tht attitude - he refused to feed for 24 hours, and even then wouldn't suck - I had to feed him formula milk from a dropper.

got to agree, after the terribly upsetting time I had off my pushy mother in law, trying to get me to breast feed a very hungry and unsettled son, i knew from conceivement my daughter wasnt going any where near my boobs. i disharged myself when she was about 8 hours old as i was starving hungry and they hadnt offered me breakfast or lunch, yet they had bought her thankfully a bottle. i cant believe all hospitals would not offer formula ? ?

essexhoney

i wouldnt mind but they dont volunteer the information neither! had i not have been at the fetal assessment unit last week and used the toilet while i was there i wouldnt have known they didnt provide it anymore! so i would have gone into labou, gone into the hospital with no option but to breastfeed! when i asked my midwife about it yesterday she said it was a very new thing they had bought in, and that she didnt think it would last long.
when i asked on the labour ward about the milk they told me to ask somewhere else there was a look of shock on there faces as if to say 'oh what do we do?' sort of thing after discussing it between themselves fro a few minutes and ringing around several other wards they came to the conclusion that it wasnt stocked in the hospital at all. they then looked at me told me not to worry and just to take everything i need with me :eek: so thats milk, bottles, steriliser, sterilising solution as well as everything else i need :eek: i think il be going straight home once i have had her :rolleyes:

jellyhead

oooh, congratulations on your impending arrival! my baby will be a year old in july (29th), it's gone so fast!

another mum told me about colief, nobody in healthcare told me. i was trying to breastfeed, so the baby was starving because he wasn't doing it. i gave him a bit of formula top-up, and although we were there for 4 days with my baby screaming his head off constantly and nobody able to sleep they kept telling me it was hunger making him draw up his knees in pain, and that once i'd decided on which feeding method to use everything would be fine. they thought it was a matter of getting him to latch on (he wouldn't get his tongue down from the roof of his mouth). in the end he needed a bottle to force his tongue down, so at home i expressed breastmilk for the bottles but it dried up by 6 weeks. he didn't want any, he was always in pain. breastmilk is high in lactose. he was having reflux too, waking up not breathing whenever he went to sleep. so i got him omneo comfort milk, it's lower in lactose, i think it's 3.9% and that helped.

a girl in the playground had a baby and we were talking about colic, she told me about colief. she is breastfeeding and has managed to breastfeed right up to a year using colief each time. i bought a bottle and straight away it was like having a different child.

so at the 6 week check i asked for it on scrip, and got it no quibble. nobody would have told me about it though, i had to find out for myself. boots have a lit up advert on their pharmacy counter now, so hopefully all the desperate mums with colicky babies will try it, and it will work for some of them (some colic is caused by other things, not all babies respond to colief).

by all means use wysoy if that's your preference, but my gp felt that adding colief to ordinary formula was the best option, and then you can use fewer drops to try and cut down gradually, to see if the baby has outgrown the intolerance. she said a dietician could give us a different milk on scrip but it's potato based and pretty nasty stuff. i was worried about soya because my brother had it before they started adding calcium to it, so his bones are damaged.

jellyhead

funky footprints omneo comfort has to be mixed quite warm. so i used to half fill the bottle with boiling water, allow it to cool and then top it up with freshly boiled water when i wanted to make the bottle. but colief makes things tricky.

bobber i have never heard of this lactose free milk but am going to research it now! is it like ordinary formula but without the lactose? i wish we were all given information about lactose, etc. instead of having to find it out from other mums :mad:

jellyhead

hollydays wrote:

whats dr. browns?

it's a type of bottle. it has a valve and helps stop babies swallowing air, so it helps with colic and tummy pain. tommy tippee make one too, it's called health check.

essexhoney

i think what i may do is ask my midwife about it when i see her next week and see what she suggests. It was her that advised me to put the next one straight onto wysoy, and she knows im not overly happy about doing so.

thanks for all your advise though its definatly different and worthwhile speaking to someone else who has been/is going through the same thing.

essexhoney

jellyhead wrote:

bobber i have never heard of this lactose free milk but am going to research it now! is it like ordinary formula but without the lactose? i wish we were all given information about lactose, etc. instead of having to find it out from other mums :mad:

i first found out about it when i ran out of wysoy and was trying to find some in boots on a saturday afternoon :rolleyes: i managed to get a tin of wysoy in the end so i didnt try it. from what i got told is its relativly new and isnt really advised for those whose children are lactose intolerant more so for those who choose not to give there child lactose.

jellyhead

you can apply for a booklet about SMA's special milks here https://www.egsintsecure.com/smasecure/allquestions/orderbooklets.asp

i still can't work out if their LF milk is cows milk that's been treated, or if it's based on something else. i'll try emailing them about it. if anyone uses LF can it be mixed with room temp water? lt would be less hassle than using colief in the aptamil, safer in terms of bacteria etc. too if there's no faffing about with warm milk sitting around breeding bacteria.

i try every couple of months to reduce the colief in the bottles but the results are awful. my GP wrote a note on his scrip last week asking me to try to wean him off the colief, if she won't give it on scrip then it would also be cheaper to buy LF milk than to buy the aptamil and colief.

sorry if anyone feels this thread has veered off topic into colief, reflux etc. but those special milks often can't be mixed at room temp etc. and make it trickier to follow the new guidlelines.

essexhoney

i have applied for that booklet before and it didnt have anything about the LF in it, though i think it may have been about a year ago i recieved it so if the LF is a new thing then chances are it may be included if it has been updated