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  • Kimitatsu
    Kimitatsu Posts: 3,889 Forumite
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    Can I also say that if you choose to willfully not pay you may be imprisoned and the debt will STILL be waiting for you when you get out. Going to jail does not automatically cancel out the debt ;)

    If you can prove financial hardship (go down to your CAB and get them to do a financial statement for you) then they may take a lower payment over a longer period of time. This could take a long time to clear though and you will still be liable even after your child has left full time education for the arrears.
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  • blimey40
    blimey40 Posts: 573 Forumite
    edited 19 November 2009 at 11:40PM
    That is if you willfully refuse to pay !!!

    The court will look at your circumstances and make a judgement, normally they will agree a payment plan, if you don't keep to that then your be in trouble. Reality is very few NRP's are sent to jail and its a complete scare tactic used by the CSA.

    By the way, to the poster who says the debt still stands when you leave jail, you cannot back in jail for the same offence and you if have no assets or money, you can't pay it. Its that simple/

    The first task must be to talk to a professional, the figure of 26k is way too high. Whatever you do, please don't stress and deal with it calmly.
  • OP, were you hoping that this was a big terrible mistake on the CSA's part? Your original post is a shocking example of how to run from your adult responsibilities. I am sorry that I am being personal, but I suspect I have personally had to pay for your decisions in life with regards to your work pattern and non compliance with your child support arrangements, this makes me very angry.
  • Trouble is we don't know if the 26k is accrued because of his total neglect or because they were never able to do a proper assessment for other reasons.

    If its the former, I entirely agree but the CSA do have a record of waiting for years before sending 1 letter !!
  • Blimey - true, we don't know if it was total neglect, regardless I'm not sure why they wouldn't have been able to do a proper assessment. Would it not have been on the information provided in 2001/02 as stated by OP?
  • Only the original poster can answer that, he does seem to indicate neglect, which means he will pay a heavy price for his refusal to co-operate earlier.
  • AnxiousMum
    AnxiousMum Posts: 2,709 Forumite
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    fznuk wrote: »
    I have had the CSA try to get hold of me for years but never confirmed who i was as i was woried that once they get me in the system i will be screwed (just like a number of farthers i know!). the last letter i saw from them was partly open and i was horrified at what they thought i owed, and it was over £30K!!!
    I think that the OP in his original post states that it was negligence on his part - they tried to get hold of him, but he wouldn't confirm who he was by responding.
  • fabforty
    fabforty Posts: 809 Forumite
    fznuk wrote: »
    I have avoided the CSA for a number of years now due to circumstances and being frightened of being in the loop of no escape due to tales from other farthers.

    I now know i have to move on and sort all this once and for all without running south.

    I recently got a letter from the courts demanding an outragious amount (£26,000) which i know is wrong but now going to contact them for a recalculation but i would like some pointers in how to proceed and if it has all gone too far to correct?

    I had a child in 1999, I split with the mother in 2001 (when she must have contacted the CSA) but then left full time employment in 2002 where i was on the dole until 2004 when i went self employed earning 3-4 grand a year (low earnings) and still do and have done to this date.

    Does anyone have an idea of what i will pay? Can i demand to deal only by letter and pay by Giro? what paperwork will i have to supply or can i direct them to my last place of work, the local job centre and the tax office for my employment past to confirm?

    I was just about to contact the CSA direct via email with the story above to at least make so sort of contact and stop any further action.

    Thanks to you all in advance.

    Kind regards.
    Just wondering how much child support you have paid in the 8 years since you split from your ex-partner? If the answer is 'nowt', then 26k to feed, clothe and provide for your child for 8 years, doesn't seem like a lot to me. Especially when you consider that if you are not paying, then either the mother and/or the taxpayer is picking up the bill.
  • fabforty
    fabforty Posts: 809 Forumite
    blimey40 wrote: »

    If its the former, I entirely agree but the CSA do have a record of waiting for years before sending 1 letter !!

    This is true. But you shouldn't need a letter from the CSA to tell you that you need to support the child that you helped to create.
  • LizzieS_2
    LizzieS_2 Posts: 2,948 Forumite
    blimey40 wrote: »
    Reality is very few NRP's are sent to jail and its a complete scare tactic used by the CSA.

    you cannot back in jail for the same offence

    I agree very few will go to jail - most will come to their sense and make some form of arrangement by then.

    Agree, you cannot go back to jail for the same offence, but the csa can apply for numerous smaller LO's - jail can apply to each LO.
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