CSA taking to much,what can I do

Loopy_Girl

speedster wrote: »

and i don't watch soaps. i leave them to wimmin who haven't got a clue about real life.

big fan of them by chance??

Nope....I'm going to start work as soon as my wee one is in bed in 15 mins.

speedster

good idea.

leave it to those who know what they're talking about eh.

Loopy_Girl

speedster wrote: »

good idea.

leave it to those who know what they're talking about eh.

Yeah....hopefully Kelloggs will be along soon as she is the queen of CSA1.:j

kelloggs36

If you multiply £78 per week for the number of weeks since January, then this equates to around the arrears figure so clearly the effective date for the assessment is January and it has been backdated to then.

If you have your assessment breakdown (the letter which gives brief breakdown of figures) I can happily check to see if they have taken the correct figures into account? PM me.

MrsTinks

Guys... can I suggest that if you have an argument with each other that maybe doing so in DT or somewhere else would be more appropriate than on the thread of a guy clearly distressed at how he'll be able to feed himself and put a roof over his head?

I don't know if it's worth even mentioning it but I will anyway...

"Please be nice to ALL money savers!"....

Loopy_Girl

No probs Mrs T...I have actually reported his last post as the content was personally offensive.

It's a sign obviously of a sub intelligence when you can't handle a debate without resorting to name calling but it's not my problem.:D

LizzieS_2

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

No, my attitude is spot on...and that is that children come first. Something that some 'parents' seems not to grasp as it's their needs first and THEN is there's any left then fling a few quid to the kid.

Correct Loopy. Op was earning £1200 back in January (says it is now £1000 and has gone down by £200). Assessment as at January was £78 and for several years he had been paying his initial assessment of £7 as he had not reported all wage increases (didn't have to).

There are a couple of issues here:
1. I can understand certain responders saying he must be able to live, but the same one also thinks the £7pw for £1200pm income is justified as he hasn't commented on that - being impartial means looking at wrongs and rights, not just cherry picking.
2. Although wage increases do not have to be reported, the op has come unstuck by taking on further commitments that he couldn't really afford had he factored in the potential csa increases in line with wage increases.

I am a little concerned over the first post - £540 left after rent and council tax and the previous £7pw child support. That is a lot for a single (?) adult to spend each month - I dread to add up the cost of a child.

LizzieS_2

speedster wrote: »

wrong again.

if there isn't a DEO in place, there will be VERY soon. so it is relevant.

please look up some facts before offering out of date advice.

Contrary to popular belief on these boards, the csa do not issue DEO's like sweeties - if they did my ex wouldn't have escaped 3 times.

kingfisherblue

I found it very difficult to persuade the CSA to put a DEO in place. I managed to convince them in the end because my ex had avoided paying for four years. He had moved house three times and failed to tell the CSA on each occasion. He had also moved jobs several times and not informed them. Enforcement had sent bailiffs at one point two years ago, but nobody answered the door and a couple of weeks later my ex became unemployed, so they couldn't continue with enforcement. The CSA also took my ex to court for non-payment, but on that date he was unemployed, so the court could only order £5 to be taken from his JSA.

Funnily enough, I had bank statements from him (because of our divorce going through at the time - it was very messy!). He was, at the time of attending court, receiving regular monthly payments from an employment agency....

Back to the DEO - when the CSA finally caught up with him, my ex was working again and admitted to working. He was paying tax and receiving WTC. The CSA told me that they would ask him to complete a direct debit mandate to pay the regular maintemance, plus the arrears. I objected very strongly, as I felt he would cancel the direct debit after a couple of months. I am a carer for my son, who is disabled, so I receive income support. I pointed out that I would be informing IS about CM being paid and my IS would be adjusted accordingly, but that if my ex then cancelled the direct debit, I would still be receiving the reduced amount of IS and we would be even worse off financially until it was sorted out.

The CSA employee replied that they always have to try a direct debit first, so I asked to speak to a supervisor. I told the supervisor the reason that I wanted a DEO and pointed out that as the case had reached enforcement over two years ago, and had gone to court almost exactly two years ago, my ex obviously wasn't interested in paying and that I was worried that the CSA were not taking my valid concerns into account. The supervisor agreed that a DEO would be considered under the circumstances.

I then received a letter saying that a DEO was in place - hurray! Since then, he has told the CSA that he paid money directly to the children because he wanted to make sure they benefitted. I know this doesn't count anyway, but my oldest child never received anything from her dad. The two younger ones had the occasional Happy Meal and a few football cards. Does he really think that this is the equivilent of feeding and clothing the kids, keeping them warm and dry, transporting them to school and cubs, etc? The CSA rejected his claim that he had been paying money directly to the children as this is not classed as CM.

His latest tactic has been to take some time off work, so the amount I have received has been reduced. Oh well, it will just take longer for him to pay off the arrears....

So as LizzieS pointed out, DEOs are not easily obtained. They are used as a last resort.

RoyalBlues

Dissillusioned wrote: »

I have played fair with the system,all I ask is they play fair to me in return,but given there history with male nrp,I doubt it.

Fair??? The CSA???...................sorry but it doesn't work like that.

You have hit the nail on the head with your comment, quoted above. IMHO, as far as the CSA are concerned, male nrp = scum.

I also agree with a previous poster in this thread that topping yourself is not the answer, although I am not convinced that certain CSA case-workers would agree!