Help blue badge parking ticket loading restriction

BabbleBubble

Help needed please...
I have received a parking ticket from LB Croydon for "parking on a yellow line while there were loading restrictions in force"
I was fully displaying the blue badge when I parked on the yellow line. There were no signs by the yellow line to say that I could not park there, I understood that disabled parking is allowed on a single yellow line unless stated otherwise on the adjacent lamp or signposts, and there were none.
There were also two cars parked in front of me on the broken part of the same yellow line with no blue badge or permit. (neither of these cars received a ticket)
I took photo's of the area when I found the ticket.
I appealed to the council and they rejected as "yellow stripes on the kerb above the yellow line show that there were loading restrictions"
Yes there was a yellow stripe on the kerb. However they made no mention to the points I raised, being that I could not find an adjacent sign to indicate if parking restrictions applied and that the yellow line was broken.
Is it worth persuing with an appeal to the adjudicator or should I pay the discounted rate of £60 (full charge is £120)?
Any advice greatly appreciated as this is really worrying me.

Adaline

I'm sorry, but I think that if there was a yellow stripe on the kerb, then this does indicate a loading area, and you won't be able to appeal. I've had this before with my blue badge, and one time I appealed because the yellow lines were worn, but didn't get it repealed, and another time is was cancelled because the kerb was covered with leaves. I'm now really careful about checking for these markings before I park.

Neil_B

Adaline wrote: »

I'm sorry, but I think that if there was a yellow stripe on the kerb, then this does indicate a loading area, and you won't be able to appeal. I've had this before with my blue badge, and one time I appealed because the yellow lines were worn, but didn't get it repealed, and another time is was cancelled because the kerb was covered with leaves. I'm now really careful about checking for these markings before I park.

The kerb marking means nothing without an accompanying timeplate.

Neil_B

BabbleBubble wrote: »

There were no signs by the yellow line to say that I could not park there, I understood that disabled parking is allowed on a single yellow line unless stated otherwise on the adjacent lamp or signposts, and there were none.

No signs are needed to say you cannot park, just a timeplate to state the 'no loading' times. You are looking for something that doesn't exist.

BabbleBubble

There was no timeplate to state the 'no loading' times

Nessynoo

If there are double kerb lines, it means "no loading at any time". If its a single one, it needs a time plate. The blue badge handbook has a section on loading bans.

The other two cars may not have received PCNs because they parked after the CEO had patrolled.

BabbleBubble

It was a single one.

anewman

Maybe getting some pictures of the area and learning the exact measurements/distance at which the signs are meant to be displayed and a tape measure will help.

BabbleBubble

I have since found after revisiting Croydon that where I parked was within a controlled parking zone. The length of the road I received my ticket is approx 200 yards long and there was a timeplate 60 yards away from where I parked, which advised no loading between 7am-7pm.
I am still confused about the two vehicles parked in front of me at the time and three cars today on a broken part of this yellow line, the break being approx 16 yards. They had not been ticketed and had no disabled badge or parking permit on display. I see that the photographic evidence of my vehicle parked had been very carefully taken to avoid showing the end of the line which finished a few inches from my front tyre, no T bar, which then continues into the broken part on which these vehicles were parked. Does a yellow line need to be complete to be enforced?

Coblcris

Adjudications on single yellow line parking within a Controlled Parking Zone are being postponed, when requested, pending the decision in the Sunderland case in the High Court. Perhaps such cases should be attached to the Sunderland case.

BabbleBubble

A few worries:
1/ If I ask for this to be adjourned, will they definitely postpone it? I'm concerned that the fine could increase to the full £120 (rather than £60), if they don't postpone.
2/ To whom do I send this request, is it Croydon council or the independent parking and traffic adjudicator?
3/ If they agree to adjourn my appeal and the Sunderland case is unsuccessful will I have to pay the full £120?