We've been had

Gwenrose

Clive_Woody wrote: »

This wouldn't be in the Sussex area would it?

No, Herne Bay, Kent.

Gwenrose

bambibashercol wrote: »

I have to agree as a tradesman myself, i post on here with the intension of helping people.
Unfortunatley Diy work or using none qualified people can end up costing more as you are finding out now. I wish you the best of luck and i know it's stinging a bit.
You should always ring round and get 3 quotes ask friends and family for recommendations. If i was you i would also speak to the guy that plastered your ceiling as he should not recommend his friend in future.

The plasterer had done work for us before and his ceilings and walls are excellent, so we trusted him when he said about the plumber being good.

Gwenrose

keystone wrote: »

I have to agree with what everyone else has said people like this make me extremely cross and I do feel sorry for you. Having said that 2 of the three problems you mention must have been obvious before you he left - particularly the tiling. Why on earth did you pay him if you were not happy with his work? How much this clown charge as a matter of interest?

You say he is not interested in sorting it out - well no probably because you have paid him. So what recourse do you have? You have to pursue him or forget it IMO.

You could complain to Trading Standards. They will not intervene directly between the to of you but should come and inspect the work and advise you what to do.

Have you got an invoice from him? Cash or not you should have done. If you do not have an invoice you could dob him in to the Inland Revenue 'cos I bet cash in hand he won't have declared it.

What name does he trade under? Have you got his Public Liability Insurance details?

Having said that and whether you want him back under your roof or not then its time to get a bit sneaky. You can always suggest directly and also via the plasterer (yes you can lean on him through that route as well) that you might contact Trading Standards or you might contact the Inland Revenue if he does not make proposals within a fixed timescale for either compensating you financially or having the work corrected at his expense.

Have a think about it but really he shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.

Cheers

The so called plumber does not trade under any name now as he's retired and cash in hand is what it was and I have no prove I paid him, plus he happens to be a friend of the plasterer, stupid me.:o

Wookey

Most shower doors have some form of adjustment to compensate for trays that aren't level, check it out first before starting to dismantle it all, very rare to get a tray that is perfectly level on all 4 sides, that said it should have been level or as near as possible on the two outside edges.

keystone

Gwenrose wrote: »

The so called plumber does not trade under any name now as he's retired and cash in hand is what it was and I have no prove I paid him, plus he happens to be a friend of the plasterer, stupid me.:o

Oh dear so no invoice then - cheap job on the cheap I suppose. You really shouldn't have paid him if you weren't happy but its always easy to be wise after the event. Think you may have stuffed yourself I'm afraid.

Retired or not he still has to declare earnings. Tell him you WILL give the Revenue a call. Tell the plasterer too. See how they react - particularly the plasterer seeing as how he was involved and is presumably still earning and paying tax - he won't want the heavy mob from Investigations breathing down his neck. May not get you anywhere but it might be a bit of fun.

Cheers

keystone

Wookey wrote: »

Most shower doors have some form of adjustment to compensate for trays that aren't level, check it out first before starting to dismantle it all, very rare to get a tray that is perfectly level on all 4 sides, that said it should have been level or as near as possible on the two outside edges.

Yes it shouldn't need dismantling its the enclosure which is off - it just needs adjusting within the wallplates. No more than an hours work I would suggest.

Cheers

keystone

@ Gwenrose

Just one point on a safety issue. I notice that there was an electric shower included in the scope. Was this a brand new installation including the required cable from the consumer unit? If it was it should have been notified to BCO under Part P of building regs and 17th Edition Certificate issued. If it was a direct replacement with an equivalently rated shower then 17th Edn Certs are not needed but in any case I really think you should get it checked by a leccy asap and even more so if he's fitted a higher rated shower than previous on the existing cable.

Cheers

1984ReturnsForReal_2

I suggest you get a Building Regs book for the toilet.

keystone

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

I suggest you get a Building Regs book for the toilet.

What do you mean?

Cheers

andrew-b

Canucklehead wrote: »

Many tradespersons post on this forum and provide advice based on years of training and experience...it is a sad state of affairs that occasionally individuals express opinions which denigrate the skills and aptitude required of a skilled tradesperson and suggest that trades only post for personal gain

Sounds like you were aiming that directly at me and that your taking my comment too personally! Maybe the comment on the flexible connectors thread of "touting for business" made shortly before my comment here didnt help!..though it was only made in jest and not aimed at anyone here ("lol" was the clue ..i like to stir things up a little to keep the tradesmen on their toes and cause a debate to liven up the forum..besides plumbers were ganging up on me and destroyed my arguments!). Still i love the constant DIY vs Trades battle..would be no fun posting otherwise! All the trades thanks each other for defending each other and all the diyer's thank each other for defending each other! Brilliant! :rotfl: