A Payment A Day - Part Six!

angelicmary85

macgirl wrote: »

I'll be teacher today - have you been on the IRN Bru tonight lady?!

:rotfl:No, had a bag of crisps...my body is re-adjusting to additives and things!! :rotfl:

I've had a couple of really strange nights with the kids...they've both been sleeping about 14hrs and have to be pulled out of their beds in the morning...think they're trying to avoid me! :rotfl:

macgirl

Blimey, can you send a bit of that to me?! Little DD has been a horror this weekend :rolleyes:
Have you done all the Christmas shopping now Angelic? Don't forget if there's anything you need "South of the Border" I can get it for you

angelicmary85

macgirl wrote: »

Blimey, can you send a bit of that to me?! Little DD has been a horror this weekend :rolleyes:
Have you done all the Christmas shopping now Angelic? Don't forget if there's anything you need "South of the Border" I can get it for you

I think I'll keep whatever it is that that's keeping them so well behaved!

I've done most of it but I've been looking for toys with lights but you don't have to press any buttons kind of like this...
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3472075/Trail/searchtext%3EPLAYSKOOL.htm

pippo

Been here in spirit..if not in reality..
£561.00 of unreported pads to declare..
life & work is ultra cr*p at present..but has made me more determined to pay off those evil ccs.
Pip
x

SarahNeedle1872

Sorry you're not having a good time pippo (((hugs)))

Sx

Paulgonnabedebtfree

Some pretty big direct debits have gone out during the night so a PAD today (Monday) of
£611.25

I seem to be up very early. I fell asleep very early last night and I guess I will pay the price today. I was pretty worn out though. That was a Saturday of hard graft followed by a moderately hard Sunday.

Paulgonnabedebtfree

angelicmary85 wrote: »

Thank you for your reply. Now I know more about it I can ask him a few harmless questions next time he's here. I know he isn't short of a few quid as they've got 2 huge contracts that I know of and do all the local guest houses and loads of people on the estate that I live on.

That "tablets in the water" bit sounds bizarre. If he's using WFP (water fed pole) method, nothing goes in the water at all. You take stuff out of the water - either before it's transferred into the van or at the point of use - depending on how the system is set up. I prefer the water to be pure before it's transferred into the van but, depending on the window cleaner's facilities back at base, this may not be possible or practical. However, so long as the water that is brushed onto the glass is pure, there need not be a problem.
As for the speed at which he works, I wouldn't attach too much importance to that really. Once the first couple of cleans have been done with the pure water method, it is usually possible to fly around the work - and achieve a good enough standard. The hourly turnover has to be much higher than with traditional methods because, quite simply, it costs a lot more per hour to run the business. Also, moderate rain is not an issue with this method because the glass is left wet anyway with pure water on it. The rain is also quite pure - even in areas of pollution (except for the very worst areas).
There are two things that are advisable though:-
1) if the brushing is happening very quickly, this need not be a flaw in technique but the faster you work, the higher the flow rate needs to be (usually).
2) some window cleaners just brush and run the brush across the top of the glass while rinsing. Although it may be possible to do this with the brush on the glass, to be more sure of a reasonable finish, it may be better to rinse with the brush off the glass.
Obviously the latter can cause more strain on the baxk - especially when working on very high windows or with heavier poles. Therefore, if I want to ease the strain on my back, I do the final rinse with just one end of the brush resting on the glass - the end that is in the direction I am working. This ensures that the jet of pure water is the last thing to connect with the glass rather than the brush bristles themselves.
There is nothing wrong with working very fast so long as the water flow is high and the technique is good. Rinsing on the glass is often OK but (IMO) can be less reliable - depending on the brush type, glass type, and the water flow rate.
Having written all that, occasionally, with some types of glass, a good finish just won't happen. It can be something to do with coatings on the glass. I had a job a while ago where there was a black coating on the glass outside a reception area. I went over it three or four times and it looked awful. Luckily it was ground floor so I just went over it with traditional tools and it was OK after that. No idea what caused it. It may have been some chemical in the coating that reacted with the pure water making it impure.
Do check the insides though first just to make sure the marks are on the outside. You would be surprised at how often I got called back (at first) only to find that the outside was fine and the inside was marked.

The above is just my view. Others in the trade may disagree with me.

mumofthreemonkies83

Paulgonnabedebtfree wrote: »

That "tablets in the water" bit sounds bizarre. If he's using WFP (water fed pole) method, nothing goes in the water at all. You take stuff out of the water - either before it's transferred into the van or at the point of use - depending on how the system is set up. I prefer the water to be pure before it's transferred into the van but, depending on the window cleaner's facilities back at base, this may not be possible or practical. However, so long as the water that is brushed onto the glass is pure, there need not be a problem.
As for the speed at which he works, I wouldn't attach too much importance to that really. Once the first couple of cleans have been done with the pure water method, it is usually possible to fly around the work - and achieve a good enough standard. The hourly turnover has to be much higher than with traditional methods because, quite simply, it costs a lot more per hour to run the business. Also, moderate rain is not an issue with this method because the glass is left wet anyway with pure water on it. The rain is also quite pure - even in areas of pollution (except for the very worst areas).
There are two things that are advisable though:-
1) if the brushing is happening very quickly, this need not be a flaw in technique but the faster you work, the higher the flow rate needs to be (usually).
2) some window cleaners just brush and run the brush across the top of the glass while rinsing. Although it may be possible to do this with the brush on the glass, to be more sure of a reasonable finish, it may be better to rinse with the brush off the glass.
Obviously the latter can cause more strain on the baxk - especially when working on very high windows or with heavier poles. Therefore, if I want to ease the strain on my back, I do the final rinse with just one end of the brush resting on the glass - the end that is in the direction I am working. This ensures that the jet of pure water is the last thing to connect with the glass rather than the brush bristles themselves.
There is nothing wrong with working very fast so long as the water flow is high and the technique is good. Rinsing on the glass is often OK but (IMO) can be less reliable - depending on the brush type, glass type, and the water flow rate.
Having written all that, occasionally, with some types of glass, a good finish just won't happen. It can be something to do with coatings on the glass. I had a job a while ago where there was a black coating on the glass outside a reception area. I went over it three or four times and it looked awful. Luckily it was ground floor so I just went over it with traditional tools and it was OK after that. No idea what caused it. It may have been some chemical in the coating that reacted with the pure water making it impure.
Do check the insides though first just to make sure the marks are on the outside. You would be surprised at how often I got called back (at first) only to find that the outside was fine and the inside was marked.

The above is just my view. Others in the trade may disagree with me.

PMSL @ Angelic, see, theres you trying to lay the blame at the window cleaner and all along its you not cleaning the insides :rotfl: Shameful

No pad for me today I dont think Might manage to pad a little change later but it wont be anything significant :rolleyes:

Congrats to those Debt free and hugs to Pippo and anyone in need :grouphug:

Mumof4 xx

mooomin

Morning all!

£1.48 PAD for me please.

Paulgonnabedebtfree

mumofthreemonkies83 wrote: »

PMSL @ Angelic, see, theres you trying to lay the blame at the window cleaner and all along its you not cleaning the insides :rotfl: Shameful

No pad for me today I dont think Might manage to pad a little change later but it wont be anything significant :rolleyes:

Congrats to those Debt free and hugs to Pippo and anyone in need :grouphug:

Mumof4 xx

I don't clean my own very often. If a customer wanted it done so infrequently, I probably wouldn't supply the service. Bit of a hypocrite really aren't I?