National Clamps - we care (not)

UsagiYojimbo

peter_the_piper wrote: »

[FONT=arial narrow, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This new legislation will be a crippling blow to the rogue clampers, but National Clamps will not be affected, as our £80 fee is already a good amount less than the new set fee of £105.[/FONT]
wonder if I get an answer.

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I doubt they'll reply unless they think they can somehow get some money out of you.

I like it how they keep trying to make out that they're not rogues or cowboys when that's exactly what they are, and they try to make it look like they're being good guys by only stealing £80 off you when they could nick £105 instead.

peter_the_piper

Well I do have a car park on my nursery so they may. However the false name and a throwaway might give them cause to ignore.

bosseyed

I'm loving the vacancies page! Awesome work quite frankly, intelligently and professionally written.

£3,000 a month to erect signs and CCTV? And all I need is a knowledge of Windows and general courtesy? Amazing! Sign me up......

budgetboy_2

Coupon-mad wrote: »

So in your view then, clamping is OK? Tell me another! :rotfl:

Where do you draw the line with such scammers then? If a burglar nipped into a house and 'just' half-inched a purse containing £80 cash, in your view it seems that wouldn't be so bad, because he could have nicked her TV as well?

Clamping is ok for car park management. Think about it from a car park owners view... A disabled old woman who finds it hard to get about can't park in the disabled place but instead has to park down the street. Is that fair? Should nobody be punished? (as in the person parked in the disabled place should be fined.) Please advise what should be done in this kind of situation...

Hadeon

budgetboy wrote: »

Clamping is ok for car park management. Think about it from a car park owners view... A disabled old woman who finds it hard to get about can't park in the disabled place but instead has to park down the street. Is that fair? Should nobody be punished? (as in the person parked in the disabled place should be fined.) Please advise what should be done in this kind of situation...

Upon what legislation are you relying to suggest that a private individual can punish & fine another private individual?

sarahg1969

Bless you. You think that the clampers are only thinking of the elderly and infirm? :rotfl:

peter_the_piper

peter_the_piper wrote: »

Just sent an email asking what legislation they mean by this

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]New Clamping Legislation Clamps Down on Rogue Clampers[/FONT]
[FONT=arial narrow, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2009-11-25 14:19:49
Strict new clamping legislation came into play on Friday in an attempt to clamp down on ‘cowboy’ wheel clampers. These clampers have been charging extortionate fees of up to around £500, compared to National Clamps who only charge £80 for removal of a clamp.

The new legislation also stops clampers intimidating car owners into paying the exorbitant prices. Previously car owners could only appeal to the clamping company, but now they can appeal to independent tribunals, making a fairer outcome for the victim.

The new wheel clamping legislation only affects private land; public roads will not be affected by the new rules. The new maximum price clampers are able to charge has been set at £105 outside London and £200 inside London.

This new legislation will be a crippling blow to the rogue clampers, but National Clamps will not be affected, as our £80 fee is already a good amount less than the new set fee of £105.[/FONT]
wonder if I get an answer.

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I'm very disappointed I've had no reply to my question. And I had a lucrative contract in the offing as well. Cough Cough.

UsagiYojimbo

budgetboy wrote: »

Clamping is ok for car park management.

Anybody would think that budgetboy works for national clamps the way he keeps sticking up for them and linking to their website for no apparent reason.

Coupon-mad

budgetboy wrote: »

Clamping is ok for car park management. Think about it from a car park owners view... A disabled old woman who finds it hard to get about can't park in the disabled place but instead has to park down the street. Is that fair? Should nobody be punished? (as in the person parked in the disabled place should be fined.) Please advise what should be done in this kind of situation...

Clamping is NOT OK for car park management.

(See I provided a different link though...).

Think about it from a car park owners view.

Been there done that, I used to be a Service Manager for a major Charity, with a car park where people sometimes parked even though they were not visitors. Guess what? We installed an intercom & gate, we didn't let brainless drones like your lot loose to play out their own pathetic protection racket on our site. We also had spaces for disabled users as well - but we knew the DDA definition of disability inside out - so unlike you we didn't threaten those people who didn't display a Blue Badge.

A disabled old woman who finds it hard to get about can't park in the disabled place but instead has to park down the street. Is that fair? Should nobody be punished?

Who are you trying to punish? Maybe another disabled old woman who has got there first - but in her case she has committed the heinous crime(!) of dropping her Blue Badge into the car footwell as she got out - or perish the thought, the little old disabled lady who got there first doesn't have a Blue Badge (a fact that I fear has escaped you is that she DOESN'T HAVE TO - strangely enough it's not a prerequisite of being disabled under the DDA definition, any more than having a wheelchair is...). And as this is private land then Blue Badges don't even mean anything, any more than the badly-painted 'disabled bays' do...

Under that Law (the one I expect you don't know anything about, that one about Disability Discrimination), retailers have to make 'reasonable adjustments' to accommodate disabled people - if they haven't got enough disabled spaces the answer is not to punish those who got there first! :rotfl:

The answer would be that the service provider or retailer would need to try to provide MORE spaces for disabled drivers if there is more call for them than can be covered by the current spaces. Disabled bays carry no clout whatsoever on private land but retailers have to show they have taken reasonable steps (not hounded people who may well be disabled, now that would be illegal!). Why assume that cars do not contain disabled people just because you can't see the 'wheelchair' or the 'Blue Badge' that your goons think denotes such a person?!

And, who exactly do you think can legally 'punish' people?

Well the Courts can - but certainly not a private firm of menacing thugs! And don't even try to justify your company's abhorrent protection racket by pretending you care about disabled people being able to park - that is pathetic and just makes you look ridiculous.

You care about MONEY. Now go & get a real job and EARN your money instead of extorting it. Your firm is a foul parasite on the back of the real businesses being run on the sites you infest.

peter_the_piper

Well they still haven't replied to my inquiry. Does that mean I've been rumbled or are they having some difficulty finding the law they refer to. I can't think why it would be difficult, I mean to say they printed it on their website so it must be true, mustn't it?