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Howdens Traders passing on discount - Scam??
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Keystone, the problem is you don't read all the detail just the bits you want to pick holes with, something you are very good at I may add!
But you really ought to get out more, I have noticed you seem to do this on a lot of other postings but whatever floats your boat!
I find some of your postings very sarcastic and indeed high handed, despite you apologising for "appearing" "rude" before.
For someone who thinks this thread is ridiculous from post 1 your posting her belies tha very comment.
Anyway you go have a great time posting and quoting, yawn! I am off out to enjoy myself:beer:0 -
the problem is you don't read all the detail
this is the funniest thing i've heard yet!
if there was any detail maybe we could all read it...This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
Keystone, the problem is you don't read all the detailjust the bits you want to pick holes with, something you are very good at I may add!But you really ought to get out more, I have noticed you seem to do this on a lot of other postings but whatever floats your boat!I find some of your postings very sarcastic and indeed high handed, despite you apologising for "appearing" "rude" before.For someone who thinks this thread is ridiculous from post 1 your posting her belies tha very comment.Anyway you go have a great time posting and quoting, yawn! I am off out to enjoy myself:beer:
CheersThe difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein0 -
So my reading of that paragraph was correct and that was what you meant to say? Yet you berate me for taking personal offence. Whaaat?
But you make no sense. Your explanation on your "quick comment" post made the paragraph mean something entirely different. Has the word consistency been expunged from your dictionary? (Yes that was supposed to be sarcy.)
Would you please direct me to the entry where any poster (whether tradesman or not) specifically condoned the action of which the OP complained.
Look at post number 82. No need for faux (I presume you mean false but you are being pretentious) outrage. And the general tone from most of the thread, until recently, has been largely a lack of sympathy for the OP, and a preference to give her a good kicking rather than to assume she might be telling the truth, and to comment on the case in that light.
As we have yet to find out whther it really is a scam or not thats a silly statement. Secondly I do remember one poster suggesting that the OP might not have obtained the copy of the second invoice legally. Is that what you mean?
So you should be ashamed of yourself for tarring eveybody with an unproven brush and whether you like it or not I remain offended by it.
Are you taking the pith? Here is what I said:
"If this thread has taught me one thing, it is to be extra careful when dealing with tradesmen etc. My dealings with a plumber and builder many years ago were fine, and recent experience with kitchen people (Optiplan) has been outstanding, very efficient and honest, but it looks like that might not be the norm. "
How is that tarring everyone with the same brush?
Apparent being the key word here and by its use you are retreating from your previously stated position. Can I presume that the use of faux outrage is designed to distract from that? I could be wrong of course - it has been known.
Cheers
Stop playing stupid word games. I genuinely am shocked by some of the comments in this thread and if you had bothered to read through it before attacking me you would understand. Go back and read through it.
I don't care for your rude and aggressive posting style. When I posted a thread about problems I have been having with a builder, you responded in a manner that took 100% the side of the builder, and gave me a good kicking. That pee'd me off. You claimed to have read it dispassionately. And yet you made assumptions, for example that the builder and I annoy each other. You made fatuous and ignorant statements, saying it was my fault for poor communications. When I asked you what I should do you did not answer. They still have not fixed the floor despite numerous phone calls and emails. And they still have not mended the window frame. So Mr. aggressive know all, what am I supposed to do? Is there a magic word? Pretty please? Is that it? I have noticed your responses to other people have been blunt to the point of rudeness. And you are a hypocrite. You are VERY quick to give others a thorough verbal kicking, but if someone seems (in your view) to insult you, you have a hissy fit. :mad::mad::mad:Warning: This forum may contain nuts.0 -
Look at post number 82. No need for faux (I presume you mean false but you are being pretentious) outrage. And the general tone from most of the thread, until recently, has been largely a lack of sympathy for the OP, and a preference to give her a good kicking rather than to assume she might be telling the truth, and to comment on the case in that light.Are you taking the pith?Here is what I said:
"If this thread has taught me one thing, it is to be extra careful when dealing with tradesmen etc. My dealings with a plumber and builder many years ago were fine, and recent experience with kitchen people (Optiplan) has been outstanding, very efficient and honest, but it looks like that might not be the norm."
I am not attacking you I am challenging some of the things you write and I have yet to see a response to some of those challenges.I don't care for your rude and aggressive posting style.When I posted a thread about problems I have been having with a builder, you responded in a manner that took 100% the side of the builder, and gave me a good kicking. That pee'd me off. You claimed to have read it dispassionately. And yet you made assumptions, for example that the builder and I annoy each other. You made fatuous and ignorant statements, saying it was my fault for poor communications.When I asked you what I should do you did not answer.They still have not fixed the floor despite numerous phone calls and emails. And they still have not mended the window frame. So Mr. aggressive know all, what am I supposed to do? Is there a magic word? Pretty please? Is that it? I have noticed your responses to other people have been blunt to the point of rudeness.And you are a hypocrite. You are VERY quick to give others a thorough verbal kicking, but if someone seems (in your view) to insult you, you have a hissy fit. :mad::mad::mad:
CheersThe difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein0 -
The responses mainly upon my revisit to my thread have been made with utter disbelief, disdain and many have tried to laugh off my absolute determination of brining this builder to justice.
Either you have all revisited and posted on here for a simple laugh or out of boredom or perhaps you genuinely have a suspicion that there is absolute genuine truth that I, a woman, had more determination than any of you would expect to take this issue of the Howden's trader who made an agreement with me to buy my kitchen at "trade price" but did not actually fulfil his agreement.
It interests me that only three women have posted on here briefly but the remainder are men who have mainly taken every opportunity to have cheap digs and react in an unprofessional and resentful manner towards me.
Very few people seemingly go as far as I did, yet I am going further and I sincerely hope that what I am doing will make a great difference, I think it will.
By the way, I never ever said it was a "landmark" case, i think it was Alan_M was one of the first to make reference to a "test case". That I know now it is not but it a case that will potentially make a change to certain trading policies should legislation be deemed to have been breached by the builder or Howden's.
At this stage I and you don't know yet.....0 -
The responses mainly upon my revisit to my thread have been made with utter disbelief, disdain and many have tried to laugh off my absolute determination of brining this builder to justice.who made an agreement with me to buy my kitchen at "trade price" but did not actually fulfil his agreement.At this stage I and you don't know yet.....
Hope you enjoyed your outing.
CheersThe difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein0 -
Keystone, I took the builder to court because he did not fulfil his agreement to pass on the discount to me, he offered to buy it at "trade discount" on my behalf. IT was an oral agreement and I made the claim on that basis.
The judge made an order for him to "repay" me "the difference" and also made an order in favour of my other claims.
I hope this clarifies things.
Yes I had a nice outing thank you:)0 -
Good for you!
And thanks for finally confirming what some of us guessed all along.
Even if I did get carried away with theories yesterday (and sidetracked whilst ranting on about Howdens and certain tradesmen), I was proved ,in essence anyway(if not in detail) , correct!
Would be interested to know what the other three points you won on were also, but no hurry, post when you are ready to.0 -
Thank you Jilly.
CheersThe difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein0
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