Did my ears deceive me?

POORBUTHONEST

I can't quite believe this but... went to see Solicitor to finalise details on a move to a brand new property, and he said ' You do realise that all new build developments are required to give a proportion (10% I think) to be occupied by Housing Association / Council tenants?' No I don't I say, but Mrs POORBUTHONEST and I think along the same lines....

So this means we pay say, £250k for a nice new property, only to find Wayne and Waynetta Slob, and various little Slobettes living next door!! With the added bonus of possibly of Chardonnay Chav and her brood in the house opposite............. A bit extreme I know but apparently it's a 'Government inititiative'.

Well, since hearing this, my other half, is now having serious misgivings about moving to said new property and is talking about stopping he sale.
Now not being snobby myself, I've told her that 'normal' people also live in HA / Council property! Not to get so uptight etc. etc.

However, I do find it a bit odd that people are housed on private estates and that it is a 'legal?' requirement.
Does the same hold true if I buy a £750k dwelling? Or a million £ house.

Shall I get off the property ladder and onto a Council waiting list??

Any thoughts anyone?

Doozergirl

It's on developments over a certain size and the type of housing will depend on the individual development. It may be Shared Ownership or key worker housing, not necessarily council tenants, though I have no doubt that better integration of council tenants into regular streets rather than estates would have improve social standards for many.

Those houses are generally clubbed together on the development area - a little block of flats or a small terrace.

You can check the type of housing with the developer. Shocked as I am by your brutal comments, you won't have chavs living next door to your salubrious executive villa.

lynzpower

Yet again someone else labouring under the same old misconceptions of people on housing benefit. No offence OP, but this really does wind me right up.

a) just because someone is recieving housing benefit doesnt mean they are anti-social chavs
b) you, one day could end up being in reciept of housing benefit, there for the grace of god and all that.
c) Im in a new build, never had any of the things you describe although I am in shared ownership, next door the womans a nurse, he works for the ambulance service. Upstairs mainly older people, and mostly older couples. Never hear a peep.

This is entirely "legal" due to the strnglehold of new developers making only unaffordable accomodation, and the law changed to ensure that a tiny proportion of properties are affordable. Personally, I dont think it goes far enough, especially when the new development near us was built on the site of 3 council tower blocks, and the development in its place is MORE properties than before but theres nothing for sale under 240. those people who are would have been living in those blocks have to be housed somewhere. And thank god for this law, otherwise the country will be going even further to the dogs than it already is.

zag2me

Thats one of the most "snobish" posts i've seen on these boards Its far better to distribute social housing on new estates rather than bunch them all into poor quality housing. And as everyone else has said, just because its social housing does not mean its wayne and waynetter. It could be doctors or nurses, teachers, first time buyers on shared ownership.

Wickedkitten

I would be more concerned about the fact that more than likely your "brand new property" is already worth a lot less than you are paying for it

Jay1b

I can kind of see the OPs point here. Whatever we like to think, its common knowledge that the worse parts in practically any area are the council estates. Now although not everyone in council estates are annoying little chav's, there is a much greater chance of living next door to one.

If you had 9 rough families in an area to 1 decent family. The chances are the children from the rough families will bring down the children from the decent family. However if you had 9 decent families to 1 rough families, the inverse would be true. So i'm all for separating social housing, it avoids creating sinkhole estates.

NervousYetFeisty

Does the same hold true if I buy a £750k dwelling? Or a million £ house.

In a word, Yes.

nmiah786

POORBUTHONEST wrote:

I can't quite believe this but... went to see Solicitor to finalise details on a move to a brand new property, and he said ' You do realise that all new build developments are required to give a proportion (10% I think) to be occupied by Housing Association / Council tenants?' No I don't I say, but Mrs POORBUTHONEST and I think along the same lines....

So this means we pay say, £250k for a nice new property, only to find Wayne and Waynetta Slob, and various little Slobettes living next door!! With the added bonus of possibly of Chardonnay Chav and her brood in the house opposite............. A bit extreme I know but apparently it's a 'Government inititiative'.

Well, since hearing this, my other half, is now having serious misgivings about moving to said new property and is talking about stopping he sale.
Now not being snobby myself, I've told her that 'normal' people also live in HA / Council property! Not to get so uptight etc. etc.

However, I do find it a bit odd that people are housed on private estates and that it is a 'legal?' requirement.
Does the same hold true if I buy a £750k dwelling? Or a million £ house.

Shall I get off the property ladder and onto a Council waiting list??

Any thoughts anyone?

I'm amazed at your post like others have already said, especially with a nick such as yours!!!!

All that aside, you might in fact find that your next door has been purchased by a BTL Landlord and then he rents it out to the council, who then put in council tenants!!!

Just a thought, I know its happens!!!

Lil_Dee_2

I have recently moved into a new build, and on the same estate there are several houses being built to provide 'affordable housing' and others that were being given over to a Housing Association. I have no issue with these, and I personally know several people who would love the opportunity to buy their own house, but really cannot afford to....except now they can !! It's a once-in-a-lifetime situation for them, and I hope that the people that get the opportunity to move into these affordable/HA houses will be very happy in their new homes.

In my experience, money can buy you anything, except manners and morals. Some of the most horrible, foul mouthed, ignorant people I have met have been the most "well-off" that you can imagine - including some famous faces...some of the most generous, hard-working and loving people I have met can only just afford to feed themselves and their kids, due to low-paid jobs, and inadequate education.

If the OP were to sit down and think about it a little more, he (and she) would probably realise that there are hard-working people out there that would love the opportunity to move into a new house/better house/their own house, they just can't afford to because of the housing market increases over the last 5/10 years. Being honest, there's no way I could have afforded the house I just sold, let alone the one I've just bought, had I not got onto the ladder in 1999 as I did...and those affordable houses would probably have been my only way of getting onto the now incredibly over-priced housing ladder. I was lucky, many weren't. This is their get-out clause, and I hope it helps many more people over the coming years.

POORBUTHONEST

Dear all, I was being somewhat satirical / tongue in cheek with my 'scenario' of potential neighbours, I myself am not 'rich'. But having worked hard enough to pull myself up by my bootstraps and get away from my council estate beginning in life, I find it quite strange that the Government can impose a ruling that all new builds have to provide a certain percentage of housing for people who cannot afford to buy. It just never crossed our minds that we would be living in a 'social mix' or whatever the jargon is!

michaels

I hev an ex la flat in a small block. The privately owned (either owner occupied or tennanted) flats all have well tended gardens and clean font yards. The two remaining council properties have old broken appliances out front and bck yards full of abandonded water features, no grass cos the dogs have torn it all up and various motorbike parts.

I agree this is not always the case but I can also see that if you bought a property and the value was reduced by the behaviour of the neighbours (whatever their background) you would be upset.