MSE News: Unemployment up, but pace of rise easing

ariarnia

Don't forget about a third of students drop out at the end of the first term from many uni's

Plus people resitting there exams from June might be doing them this Christmas and won't be counted as unemployed until they've completed.

And if Christmas goes poorly then many places will be looking to drop staff in the new (and new financial) year

Not to be gloomy or anything.

abaxas

Any news on the other 3-4 million people who are not on JSA but dont work?

Has this number increased/decreased etc etc

StevieJ

abaxas wrote: »

Any news on the other 3-4 million people who are not on JSA but dont work?

Has this number increased/decreased etc etc

You mean pensioners

abaxas

StevieJ wrote: »

You mean pensioners

No I mean the people on benifits other than JSA. Single mums, those disabled people who used to claim JSA but were forced onto disability as it fudges the figues etc.

StevieJ

abaxas wrote: »

No I mean the people on benifits other than JSA. Single mums, those disabled people who used to claim JSA but were forced onto disability as it fudges the figues etc.

You mean that scam that the Tory govt brought in to pretend that unemployment wasn't so bad

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/politics/39788.stm

abaxas

StevieJ wrote: »

You mean that scam that the Tory govt brought in to pretend that unemployment wasn't so bad

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/politics/39788.stm

Yep!

That's the one.

Generali

StevieJ wrote: »

You mean that scam that the Tory govt brought in to pretend that unemployment wasn't so bad

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/politics/39788.stm

The Tories were very keen that the unemployment headline figure should look better so pushed people onto 'the sick'.

Perhaps time limiting unemployment benefits would be a better way to do things.

IveSeenTheLight

I was having a thought about the unemployment figures earlier.
We have seen them recently rise, but I wondered what was happening to actual employment figures.
It would seem that there are a number of indicators pointing that actually there are far more people employed nowadays than previously, even though enemployment is rising.

To clarify: -

1) Net migration - This has been increasing for a number of years and projections are that these are to continue to increase
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1352
Consider that there are approximately 2 million more people in the UK than in 2001, increasing on average by 325,000 each year
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?ID=950

2) People are living and working for longer
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=2271
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/articles/population_trends/ErciliaDiniPT137web.pdf

Accepted that unfortunately unemployment has risen from circa 1.6 million to 2.5 million, but this is only a rise of less than one million.
We have seen the popultion increase by two million in the last 8 years and we know that there are increasing older people working, far outweighing the number made unemployed.

chucky

abaxas wrote: »

Any news on the other 3-4 million people who are not on JSA but dont work?

Has this number increased/decreased etc etc

do you mean pensioners and students?

92.2% employment is not bad going despite the worst recession in living memory (allegedly)

abaxas

chucky wrote: »

do you mean pensioners and students?

92.2% employment is not bad going despite the worst recession in living memory (allegedly)

Where is that number from?

Other than someone's fantasy.