ITV, now, 9pm - 7 Days on the Breadline

The_White_Horse

people died on the nimrod so the MOD could save cash to pay to these cretins.

its a sad world. i doubt bob ainsworth will have the decency to resign.

puddy

whatever happened to that woman on wife swap, the loud one, lizzie(?) or something, the household where she smoked, her kids had asthma and her and her partner didnt work. she got lambasted in the media and then appeared on a few talk shows and stuff. this must be about 10 years ago now, yet either that part of society doesnt change, or the way TV programmes are edited doesnt, which is it?

choille

Telly likes these controversal types - gets the other media lambasting them, Daily Mail on its high horse etc.

Why not show a poor OAP that's trying to make end meet & hardly managing to heat her damp house - cos it aint sexy enough, nor is anyone interested as they are in all these fly on the wall sort of docusoaps.
It is as much a reflection on the audience as it is on the participants - we get what they think we want!

space_rider

PasturesNew wrote: »

Hee we go.

It annoys me they call them below the poverty line when I hear how much money they have coming in regular as clockwork. More than I've ever had.

When I was on income support because I had to take unpaid leave from work due to ill child, I never had so much money to spend in all my adult life. When I went back to work I was £200 a month worse off.

space_rider

98sidney wrote: »

Why do they never pick a normal single mother. I am a single mum of 2 not my choice he cheated on me.
I work and I keep a tidy house, I do not smoke or drink.
I follow the early xmas threads on here. as well as grab it now board and hukd site so I can buy gifts for the year.
And I walk to the supermarket with my buggy which my kids out grown years ago so I can carry my shopping home..

Every programme I see that has a single parent in they choose the most unruly family and mother..

You wouldn`t make good telly. I`m single mum with a job and 2 of my children have left school and did really well with GCSE`s., one is at Uni. My 3rd daughter missed lots of school due to ill health last year and still managed to get 3 B`s and 1 A in AS level. No one would be interested to put us on tv.

fc123

jenner wrote: »

whatever happened to that woman on wife swap, the loud one, lizzie(?) or something, the household where she smoked, her kids had asthma and her and her partner didnt work. she got lambasted in the media and then appeared on a few talk shows and stuff. this must be about 10 years ago now, yet either that part of society doesnt change, or the way TV programmes are edited doesnt, which is it?

I remember her...I think her hubby used to work on the snide anyway. Didn't someone sell a story to The Sun?
She got done for benefit fraud for not declaring her telly earnings..umm...... the income she earnt from from selling her dole lifestyle story.


I can see where PN and White Horse are coming from (but I can't condone killing people even if I disaprove of their life choices)..........and I am about to write a fat VAT cheque for GB's spends next month but it's a hard one to comment on as 'Sins of the fathers' and all that.

Society has made it acceptable for a father to just leave and abandon his offspring and partner and for welfare to pick up the tab. CSA assess his income maybe, but only give to the mother what is left after his own independent expenses in life. They may include a fresh, new partner and sparkly new kids.


Perhaps it's because telly makes it so visible now? Everyone must remember having a neglected child in their class ..even son did and he went private from age 8...parental neglect isn't always about enough cash but we never saw inside the home.


I haven't watched the 2nd show but will catch up tonight.

I was thinking about this whilst swimming tonight (cos it's so boring) and will work out how much Mrs 6 Kids needs in £££ to cope and raise 6 X productive members of society.

Shakethedisease

if that hateful woman wants six kids, let her pay for six. and if she can't, let them starve.

What a horrible thing to say.

Some on here are so up themselves and their 'decentness' they can't see they're only a heart attack or an accident away from being in the same position... and I'll tell you, it doesn't take long to start relying on the Provvy man for Xmas, smoking roll-ups to save money and drinking to blank out the crappy existence you've found yourself in.

Being 'decent' is only a p45 away for most of us.

The kids she's had. Are 'decent' people any more sure that their partner won't !!!!!! off when there's a younger woman/bored/feels 'trapped'/wants to 'find himself/didn't want to be a father anyway.. and the multitude of other reasons relationships break up. Why is it assumed that women of a lower 'class' just simply shag about aimlessly and have no concept of thinking that the relationship might last ? They're just as suseptible and hopeful as everyone else ( Sadie Frost, Jerry Hall, Jennifer Aniston) to thinking that the man they are with, might possibly stay and see life through with them. Kids included.

Things just don't work out for a lot of people. no kids, 2 kids, 6 kids.

That kids from these relationships shouldn't be valued or treated with the same respect as those with more money ..or indeed.. sneered at and on boards like this actually spoken about in terms of 'starved' or drowned at birth like unwanted kittens. Is just soooo bad to read. And, part of the problem if you ask me.

Said my piece. I'm franky shocked at the callousness here. You must know the programme is simply an excerise in raising viewing figures, nothing more. They chose these families for a reason..:rolleyes:

treliac

ruggedtoast wrote: »

the government is doing people no favours by suspending people in a stasis of poverty.

It thinks it's doing itself good - by securing their votes (if they can be bovvered to vote I s'pose).

treliac

fc123 wrote: »

What's with the teen boys? They can't communicate. What happened to their schooling?

They've lived through ? number of years of SATs and national curriculum. Govt either never really wanted to raise standards or (just as with everything else they've touched) they didn't have a clue.

Pobby

choille wrote: »

Telly likes these controversal types - gets the other media lambasting them, Daily Mail on its high horse etc.

Why not show a poor OAP that's trying to make end meet & hardly managing to heat her damp house - cos it aint sexy enough, nor is anyone interested as they are in all these fly on the wall sort of docusoaps.
It is as much a reflection on the audience as it is on the participants - we get what they think we want!

Funny that, well not funny at all. That OAP, soon. in a few years, to become one myself has contributed loads to this society. I am very fortunate that we will not be relying on the pittance doled out by the government and I am very thankful for that but call it benefit bashing or whatever you care, I know of a number of people who take the option of a life style choice of having kids, it`s a deliberate act, and getting state hand outs. yes and before anyone flames me this experience is in my extended family.

I think that this and other governments are cynical when it comes to OAPs. For example, they calculate interest on anything above the allowable £6,000 in savings at just over 10% per annum.

Thank the Lord I am at the moment healthy and I am studying toward a national certificate, outside of my industry, which I hope will allow me to run a part time business. The idea of sitting around watching day time time TV horrifies me. I rarely want to watch the rubbish in the evenings.