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Jeez my pcs sooo slow

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  • espresso
    espresso Posts: 16,448 Forumite
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    Here they come. Have another go at David. Do you follow me and like to post the opposite to what I suggest? They certainly are opinions and the OP can choose to follow them or not. What do I care. I was simply offering help.

    It's not have a go at david at all but it is not necessary to inflict your personal opinions of various progarms that other users have been perfectly happy using to resolve their problems. Your credibility is lost when you throw your toys out of the pram if they don't follow your control freak instructions to the letter - grow up! I certainly don't follow your posts, don't flatter yourself.
    :doh: Blue text on this forum usually signifies hyperlinks, so click on them!..:wall:
  • espresso wrote: »
    It's not have a go at david at all but it is not necessary to inflict your personal opinions of various progarms that other users have been perfectly happy using to resolve their problems.
    The OP asked how to speed up a slow PC. I was simply offering my personal opinion on how to do this. This includes removing ZoneAlarm and AVG as I find they slow PCs down. I simply then recommended alternatives.
    espresso wrote: »
    Your credibility is lost when you throw your toys out of the pram if they don't follow your control freak instructions to the letter - grow up! I certainly don't follow your posts, don't flatter yourself.
    Haha funny. It's somewhat frustrating to spend time writing a post to then find the OP hasn't followed it and hasn't made clear their fears or worries. If they don't want to follow it or have valid reasons then I'd hope they say. But if they come back asking for further advice not following the previous, and not telling me which parts they have done then this is where frustration creeps in...
  • Thanks for everyones advice was hoping it would fix it by removing the stuff mentioned as pc has become very unstable and I dont have the option of re installing xp the pc is a few years old I know but havent got the money to buy a new one at mo.I havent a prob with removing avg or zone alarm if I have to but never had a problem with either of those.It only seems to have gone wrong since all those windows updates a few days ago dont know if its related to that?
  • aliEnRIK
    aliEnRIK Posts: 17,741 Forumite
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    alien erik yes I updated 2 seconds before I did the scan it said it was updated If I remove zone alarm is there a better free one I could use?
    David yes im plowing through it all but it just takes so long to get the pc started again.I cant reinstall xp in answer ot one of your earlier points as I have lost the disks


    I couldnt check the database version so wasnt sure

    You could use windows inbuilt one. Personally I use PC TOOLS FIREWALL with no problems
    :idea:
  • ok right im off to remove zone alarm then back in about a bloody hour then after its rebooted lol
  • timmmers
    timmmers Posts: 3,755 Forumite
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    Make it easy for yourself.

    Go and join PCpitstop.com and then run a full system test.
    In the list of running programs it will tell you what is REQUIRED and what isn't. Open Windows Defender (free from MS and you may have it) and under tools find the stuff that starts when your machine boots...and disable them. No need to uninstal as they do nothing if they don't start.
    It will (literally) flag any problems you have, big or small. Advise you on a fix.
    IF you are epileptic it's wise not to watch the screen as it tests...it does a serious amount of flashing which could be unpleasant during graphics parts of the tests.

    PCpitstop is free but supported by ads so watch out for clicking on ads that only want to sell you Panda etc. ..you don't need to use any of that. You can do many tests there, and handily you can go back and compare your tests to past ones to see if you have a problem in future.

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  • asininity
    asininity Posts: 1,615 Forumite
    edited 20 October 2009 at 8:30PM
    Just consentrating on the startup items in your HiJackThis log you can get rid of all of these following as they can all be starting when needed and one or two are cheeky spywares (the ones in bold you can delay the start of in you want if you install something like WinPatrol if not keep them):

    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CHotkey] zHotkey.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PE2CKFNT SE] C:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead Photo Express 2 SE\ChkFont.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NeroCheck] C:\WINDOWS\system32\NeroCheck.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Photo Downloader] "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop Album Starter Edition\3.2\Apps\apdproxy.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IgfxTray] C:\WINDOWS\system32\igfxtray.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HotKeysCmds] C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Persistence] C:\WINDOWS\system32\igfxpers.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Alcmtr] ALCMTR.EXE
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Logitech Hardware Abstraction Layer] KHALMNPR.EXE
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [hpqSRMon] C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqSRMon.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BluetoothAuthenticationAgent] rundll32.exe bthprops.cpl,,BluetoothAuthenticationAgent
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NokiaMServer] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Nokia\MPlatform\NokiaMServer /watchfiles
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NokiaMusic FastStart] "C:\Program Files\Nokia\Nokia Music\NokiaMusic.exe" /command:faststart
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe"
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Microsoft Works Update Detection] c:\Program Files\Microsoft Works\WkDetect.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MoneyAgent] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\mnyexpr.exe"
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Picasa Media Detector] C:\Program Files\Picasa2\PicasaMediaDetector.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Google Update] "C:\Documents and Settings\CRAIG\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Update\GoogleUpdate.exe" /c
    O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\System32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
    O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\System32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')
    O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-18\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\System32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'SYSTEM')
    O4 - HKUS\.DEFAULT\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\System32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'Default user')
    O4 - Global Startup: HP Digital Imaging Monitor.lnk = C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqtra08.exe
    O4 - Global Startup: hp psc 1000 series.lnk = ?
    O4 - Global Startup: hpoddt01.exe.lnk = ?
    O4 - Global Startup: Logitech SetPoint.lnk = C:\Program Files\Logitech\SetPoint\SetPoint.exe
    O4 - Global Startup: Photo Express Calendar Checker SE.lnk = C:\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead Photo Express 2 SE\CalCheck.exe
  • smudger1964
    smudger1964 Posts: 683 Forumite
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    edited 21 October 2009 at 4:14PM
    Right ok I have managed to get rid of zonealarm.
    I think I have got rid of the items that asinity has recommended that I do only when you do msconfig and go to start up items they dont look exactly like they do in the hijack thingy.
    I have run the pc pitstop utility well one of them it wouldnt let me install the other one god knows why?I think I have got rid of those start up items.It definately starts up quicker withinn a few minutes anyway but it then takes about 20 mins before it will do anything after you click it.
    I am posting the latest hijack anything else I shuold remove please
    Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
    Scan saved at 17:04:11, on 21/10/2009
    Platform: Windows XP SP3 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
    MSIE: Internet Explorer v8.00 (8.00.6001.18702)
    Boot mode: Normal
    Running processes:
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\AVG\AVG8\avgwdsvc.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\CSHelper.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jqs.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\AVG\AVG8\avgrsx.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\AVG\AVG8\avgnsx.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\AVG\AVG8\avgemc.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\igfxpers.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\RTHDCPL.EXE
    C:\PROGRA~1\AVG\AVG8\avgtray.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\igfxsrvc.exe
    C:\Program Files\AVG\AVG8\avgcsrvx.exe
    C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
    C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\browser\ycommon.exe
    R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.bt.yahoo.com
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://uk.red.clientapps.yahoo.com/customize/btyahoo/defaults/sb/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/info/bt_side.html
    R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
    R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
    R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
    R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings,ProxyOverride = 127.0.0.1
    F2 - REG:system.ini: UserInit=C:\WINDOWS\system32\Userinit.exe
    O2 - BHO: HP Print Enhancer - {0347C33E-8762-4905-BF09-768834316C61} - C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\Smart Web Printing\hpswp_printenhancer.dll
    O2 - BHO: Adobe PDF Reader Link Helper - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
    O2 - BHO: (no name) - {243B17DE-77C7-46BF-B94B-0B5F309A0E64} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\mnyside.dll
    O2 - BHO: WormRadar.com IESiteBlocker.NavFilter - {3CA2F312-6F6E-4B53-A66E-4E65E497C8C0} - C:\Program Files\AVG\AVG8\avgssie.dll
    O2 - BHO: UberButton Class - {5BAB4B5B-68BC-4B02-94D6-2FC0DE4A7897} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common\yiesrvc.dll
    O2 - BHO: YahooTaggedBM Class - {65D886A2-7CA7-479B-BB95-14D1EFB7946A} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common\YIeTagBm.dll
    O2 - BHO: Windows Live Sign-in Helper - {9030D464-4C02-4ABF-8ECC-5164760863C6} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WindowsLiveLogin.dll
    O2 - BHO: NOW!Imaging - {9AA2F14F-E956-44B8-8694-A5B615CDF341} - C:\Program Files\ONSPEED\components\NOWImaging.dll
    O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In 2 SSV Helper - {DBC80044-A445-435b-BC74-9C25C1C588A9} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jp2ssv.dll
    O2 - BHO: JQSIEStartDetectorImpl - {E7E6F031-17CE-4C07-BC86-EABFE594F69C} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\deploy\jqs\ie\jqs_plugin.dll
    O2 - BHO: SidebarAutoLaunch Class - {F2AA9440-6328-4933-B7C9-A6CCDF9CBF6D} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\browser\YSidebarIEBHO.dll
    O2 - BHO: HP Smart BHO Class - {FFFFFFFF-CF4E-4F2B-BDC2-0E72E116A856} - C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\Smart Web Printing\hpswp_BHO.dll
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HotKeysCmds] C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Persistence] C:\WINDOWS\system32\igfxpers.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RTHDCPL] RTHDCPL.EXE
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Logitech Hardware Abstraction Layer] KHALMNPR.EXE
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG8_TRAY] C:\PROGRA~1\AVG\AVG8\avgtray.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MoneyAgent] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\mnyexpr.exe"
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
    O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\System32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
    O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\System32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')
    O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-18\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\System32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'SYSTEM')
    O4 - HKUS\.DEFAULT\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\System32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'Default user')
    O8 - Extra context menu item: Add to Google Photos Screensa&ver - res://C:\WINDOWS\system32\GPhotos.scr/200
    O9 - Extra button: BT Yahoo! Services - {5BAB4B5B-68BC-4B02-94D6-2FC0DE4A7897} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common\yiesrvc.dll
    O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {CD67F990-D8E9-11d2-98FE-00C0F0318AFE} - (no file)
    O9 - Extra button: HP Smart Select - {DDE87865-83C5-48c4-8357-2F5B1AA84522} - C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\Smart Web Printing\hpswp_BHO.dll
    O9 - Extra button: Money Viewer - {E023F504-0C5A-4750-A1E7-A9046DEA8A21} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft Money\System\mnyside.dll
    O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
    O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
    O12 - Plugin for .spop: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Plugins\NPDocBox.dll
    O16 - DPF: ChatSpace Full Java Client 3.1.0.248 - http://chat-c2.wanadoo.co.uk/Java/cfs31248.cab
    O16 - DPF: {0E5F0222-96B9-11D3-8997-00104BD12D94} (PCPitstop Utility) - http://www.pcpitstop.com/betapit/PCPitStop.CAB
    O16 - DPF: {30528230-99f7-4bb4-88d8-fa1d4f56a2ab} (Installation Support) - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Common\Yinsthelper.dll
    O16 - DPF: {56336BCB-3D8A-11D6-A00B-0050DA18DE71} - http://software-dl.real.com/226f84e5303fead72b17/netzip/RdxIE601.cab
    O16 - DPF: {6E32070A-766D-4EE6-879C-DC1FA91D2FC3} (MUWebControl Class) - http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/V5Controls/en/x86/client/muweb_site.cab?1155308403281
    O16 - DPF: {71057C18-0507-4747-86BC-E11CE7512C5F} - https://register.btinternet.com/templates/btmailcontrol013.cab
    O16 - DPF: {94E5218F-9737-4FC2-8457-567B1FF23DC0} (diskhealth Class) - http://utilities.pcpitstop.com/Nirvana/controls/DiskMD3Ctrl.dll
    O16 - DPF: {A553720A-BFED-4EA4-A71F-7EFCA690A1F7} (PCPitstop AntiVirus) - http://utilities.pcpitstop.com/Nirvana/controls/pcpitstopAntiVirus.dll
    O16 - DPF: {A90A5822-F108-45AD-8482-9BC8B12DD539} (Crucial cpcScan) - http://www.crucial.com/controls/cpcScanner.cab
    O16 - DPF: {A922B6AB-3B87-11D3-B3C2-0008C7DA6CB9} (InetDownload Class) - http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/WindowsMedia/downloadcontrol.cab
    O16 - DPF: {AE9DCB17-F804-11D2-A44A-0020182C1446} (IntraLaunch.MainControl) - [URL]file://D:\SuperCD\IntraLaunch.CAB[/URL]
    O16 - DPF: {C606BA60-AB76-48B6-96A7-2C4D5C386F70} (PreQualifier Class) - http://downloads.broadbandassist.com/BTYahoo!Help//PreQual/files/MotivePreQual.cab
    O16 - DPF: {EC5A4E7B-02EB-451D-B310-D5F2E0A4D8C3} - https://register.btinternet.com/templates/btwebcontrol024.cab
    O16 - DPF: {FFB3A759-98B1-446F-BDA9-909C6EB18CC7} (PCPitstop Exam) - http://utilities.pcpitstop.com/Nirvana/controls/pcpitstop2.dll
    O18 - Protocol: linkscanner - {F274614C-63F8-47D5-A4D1-FBDDE494F8D1} - C:\Program Files\AVG\AVG8\avgpp.dll
    O20 - Winlogon Notify: avgrsstarter - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\avgrsstx.dll
    O23 - Service: AVG Free8 E-mail Scanner (avg8emc) - AVG Technologies CZ, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\AVG\AVG8\avgemc.exe
    O23 - Service: AVG Free8 WatchDog (avg8wd) - AVG Technologies CZ, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\AVG\AVG8\avgwdsvc.exe
    O23 - Service: CopySafe Helper Service (CSHelper) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\CSHelper.exe
    O23 - Service: Google Software Updater (gusvc) - Google - C:\Program Files\Google\Common\Google Updater\GoogleUpdaterService.exe
    O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\1150\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
    O23 - Service: Java Quick Starter (JavaQuickStarterService) - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jqs.exe
    O23 - Service: ServiceLayer - Nokia. - C:\Program Files\Nokia\PC Connectivity Solution\ServiceLayer.exe
    O23 - Service: YPCService - Yahoo! Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\YPCSER~1.EXE
    --
    End of file - 8561 bytes


    There is certainly a lot less here than the first time I run it
  • asininity
    asininity Posts: 1,615 Forumite
    You could try replacing AVG with Avira, if you do remember and use the AVG removal tool.

    You could get rid of these services:

    O23 - Service: CopySafe Helper Service (CSHelper) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\CSHelper.exe
    O23 - Service: Google Software Updater (gusvc) - Google - C:\Program Files\Google\Common\Google Updater\GoogleUpdaterService.exe
    O23 - Service: Java Quick Starter (JavaQuickStarterService) - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jqs.exe
    O23 - Service: ServiceLayer - Nokia. - C:\Program Files\Nokia\PC Connectivity Solution\ServiceLayer.exe
    O23 - Service: YPCService - Yahoo! Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\YPCSER~1.EXE
  • aliEnRIK
    aliEnRIK Posts: 17,741 Forumite
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    If its still taking 20 mins then theres something amiss somewhere

    Ive know just looked at the latest Malwarebytes updates ~ were on database version 3005
    Yours was 2775, it MUST have been out of date (Or its not updating properly)
    :idea:
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