Cockapoos??

Frugalista

rachiee wrote: »

Heres a website with some cockapoo's on, I don't know what your price range is but these range from £695 - £800. Also there's a search bar on there so you can search specific size etc.. Hope i helped! x

http://www.breedersonline.co.uk/puppies-for-sale.asp?breed=Cockapoo

Had to laugh (or I'd weep) at this site Breeders Online Pedigree Breeders - massive contradiction in terms - these puppies are crossbreeds, nothing more :mad:. Looked at a couple of the adverts - one said they are planning to breed 3 more !!!!!es this autumn!!!! :eek: And the prices they are asking OMG :eek::eek:. OP you could buy a carefully bred Cocker or Poodle from fully health checked parent for less than these people are asking!!

rachiee I have to ask, as an Accredited Breeder yourself why do you promote these very dubious sites and breedings? I'm not being sarky, I genuinely don't understand why. The majority of pedigree dog breeders are absolutely horrified at these so-called "designer dogs". Does this not worry you also?

Fire_Fox

janiec wrote: »

Thanks Norbetsmum and Humphrey 10 for your kind replies. I will keep looking at all the rescue centres, I promise! My first dog, Tizzy, was a rescue dog and was fabulous. The dog I have just lost, Pip, was the result of a "liaison"! By which I mean she wasnt a pedigree and I didnt pay a small fortune for her!
Just feel that as I have just got remarried, I would ike a puppy (or two!) who will be with us for a fair long while?
Thanks again for your replies
Janie x

There might be a rescue somewhere in the country who may have cockapoo puppies if you check online (I think dogpages has been recommended?), or will keep and eye/ ear open for you if not. I went to three rescues before I got my cat, but it was easier for me as I didn't want a kitten and adult cats are all pretty much the same size!!

rachiee

Frugalista wrote: »

Had to laugh (or I'd weep) at this site Breeders Online Pedigree Breeders - massive contradiction in terms - these puppies are crossbreeds, nothing more :mad:. Looked at a couple of the adverts - one said they are planning to breed 3 more !!!!!es this autumn!!!! :eek: And the prices they are asking OMG :eek::eek:. OP you could buy a carefully bred Cocker or Poodle from fully health checked parent for less than these people are asking!!

rachiee I have to ask, as an Accredited Breeder yourself why do you promote these very dubious sites and breedings? I'm not being sarky, I genuinely don't understand why. The majority of pedigree dog breeders are absolutely horrified at these so-called "designer dogs". Does this not worry you also?

I am only helping the lady for gods sake!!!!!!!!! I am not 'promoting' any websites thankyou very much I am simply pointing her to the site i found the cockerpoo's on! Please keep your comments to your self.. you clearly didn't read the recent topic about people keeping things to them selves!!! As for the "designer dogs" yes i agree cokerpoos are designer but the lady wanted one i am just helping her get 1, they are not going to be KC reg because they are a cross breed. Breeders online has many non - pedigree pups on there, having a lark at me is not going to stop people breeding cross breeds or "designer dogs".. Also for the " have to ask, as an Accredited Breeder yourself why do you promote these very dubious sites and breedings?" I am NOT poromoting breedings either! I breed 1 litter every 3 years mate and I do not appreciate your dubious comments at people either! Please keep your nose out of things such as this like I say i was simply helping the OP find a dog of her choice it does not mean any of what you just spouted at me! I am not going to tell people what to buy am I or tell her she can't have a Cockerpoo because people like you don't agree!! Grow up!!!!!

Ruby_Moon

Frugalista......Designer dog is nothing outrageous, its just a crossbreed. What is wrong with crossbreeds? Most dogs you will see out and about are crossbreeds.
There is more to worry about with pedigrees than there is with crossbreeds.
Is it that you don't like people to have a dog from a breeder full stop or is it just crossbreeds you don't like?

janiec

Hi Frugalista
I am not a breeder and have not your knowledge - but I have had dogs all my adult life.
I am interested in Cockapoos having met a wonderful lady owner at a show who had trained her dog as a hearing dog. He was so intelligent and affectionate and I fell a bit in love!
Any advice you may have would be greatly appreciated.
Janie

rachiee

Ruby_Moon wrote: »

Frugalista......Designer dog is nothing outrageous, its just a crossbreed. What is wrong with crossbreeds? Most dogs you will see out and about are crossbreeds.
There is more to worry about with pedigrees than there is with crossbreeds.
Is it that you don't like people to have a dog from a breeder full stop or is it just crossbreeds you don't like?

I 100% agree :T

Frugalista

rachiee wrote: »

I am only helping the lady for gods sake!!!!!!!!! I am not 'promoting' any websites thankyou very much I am simply pointing her to the site i found the cockerpoo's on! Please keep your comments to your self.. you clearly didn't read the recent topic about people keeping things to them selves!!! As for the "designer dogs" yes i agree cokerpoos are designer but the lady wanted one i am just helping her get 1, they are not going to be KC reg because they are a cross breed. Breeders online has many non - pedigree pups on there, having a lark at me is not going to stop people breeding cross breeds or "designer dogs".. Also for the " have to ask, as an Accredited Breeder yourself why do you promote these very dubious sites and breedings?" I am NOT poromoting breedings either! I breed 1 litter every 3 years mate and I do not appreciate your dubious comments at people either! Please keep your nose out of things such as this like I say i was simply helping the OP find a dog of her choice it does not mean any of what you just spouted at me! I am not going to tell people what to buy am I or tell her she can't have a Cockerpoo because people like you don't agree!! Grow up!!!!!

Wow!! I seem to have touched a raw nerve here :rolleyes:. And actually, No I won't keep my comments to myself - this is an open forum and my opinion is just as valid as yours - you obviously didn't read the thread you mentioned properly .

Also, I didn't say anything about your own breeding of pedigree dogs - I was querying why, as someone who purports to understand the importance of bloodlines, healthchecks, etc, you seem to indicate that the breeding of crossbreeds is wise. Yes, I am fully aware that if the OP is set on buying a crossbreed for mega-bucks then she is perfectly at liberty to do so - where did I say I didn't agree or that she couldn't have one? I'm just saying that the majority of reputable pedigree dog breeders (and believe me, I know hundreds personally ) would be more inclined to advise her to either get a rescue or one of the 2 breeds involved in the cross. For example, both Cockers and Poodles suffer from hereditary eye problems (not the same ones in both breeds) so there is a pretty good chance that a Cockerpoo would have some sort of problem in this area. To my mind, helping the OP would include informing her of the possibility of that and not just providing a list of suppliers and a pricelist .

As for not appreciating any "dubious comments" - would you care to point out where any were made - I simply asked a perfectly valid question - it is you who has "gone off on one" and throw all your toys out of the pram :rotfl:.

Finally, I am not your "mate" and I think it is you that needs to grow up! Have a good evening :wave:.

Lobell

If you are looking for a puppy, why not look at the Cocker Spaniel or the Poodle? Both are intelligent, trainable, fun, family dogs. As far as I can see, there is nothing to be gained from crossing them...except slapping a bigger price tag on them! They are not hypo-allergenic or non-moulting which generally seems to be the advertised selling point of such crosses. You'll have to go a long way to find a breeder of 'Cockerpoos' that carry out all the health tests required for both breeds (and there are several for each breed). And, as both breeds are affected by the same inherited eye condition (PRA - Progressive Retinal Atrophy - which causes progressive sight loss and eventual blindness), I see even less of a reason to breed them.

OP, if you cannot find a companion in a rescue shelter, I would urge you to consider very carefully whether you want to take a gamble on a 'designer' crossbreed....they rarely attract reputable, ethical breeders and are churned out by people who just want to make a fast buck with little regard to the health and well being of the pups they produce.

Like I said at the outset, either the Cocker Spaniel or Poodle make excellent family pets. Or might I suggest a rescue greyhound? There are thousands of ex-racers looking for homes and they make excellent companions. Not all are 'older' either as there are plenty of younger ones that didn't make the grade for whatever reason and need forever homes.

foreign_correspondent

Sorry to hear about your dog - but 17 is a fabulous age for a large-ish dog!

I am glad to hear you are thinking about rescue - if you are happy with a crossbreed, there will be loads of suitable dogs in rescues, including pups - but you may have to look around a little -dogsblog is a good place to look. www.dogsblog.com

Buying a crossbreed from a breeder is a very expensive way of getting a dog which may or may not turn out more like either of the parents - you have no guarantee of what it will grow up to look like, or which parents temprement it will inherit. Also, as frugalista has said, responsible breeders do not churn out crossbreeds - why would they when we already have more than there are homes for? They have no interest in developing the qualities of a particular breed, and are likely to breed their b1tch with whatever local dog they can get hold of that is the right 'sort' - they are not discriminating about things like health checks and hereditary illnesses.

Having said that, crossbreeds are my favourite dogs - in fact I like them so much that I could not imagine going to a breeder for one when I know there are so many lovely cross breeds and mongrels (of all ages and sizes) in rescues.

here is a list of dogs aged under 1 year in rescue from dogsblog http://www.dogsblog.com/category/age/0-1-years/ - if you look at the bar down the right hand side of the page you can search by age, breed, or size - there is a ten week old labrador cross on there (just metioned as you say your last dog was a lab x) - however, if you are looking for a smaller dog, there are some here, of all ages, including some youngsters: http://www.dogsblog.com/category/unknown-cross-small-size/

If you are interested in poodle crosses there is a lovely year old poodle cross lab here : http://www.dogsblog.com/category/poodle-cross/

The dogs coming onto there change daily, as so many dogs are sadly ending up in rescue at the moment, and it is not unusual for pups to be born in rescue - this problem is exacerbated by the financial climate at the moment, which makes it good for you (more choice!) but sad for the dogs.

You could also post a 'home offered' ad here - if you can't register (I know some people have difficulties - cant remember why!) I would happily post on your behalf (PM me!) - it is a rescue dog site that many rescues read, and someone may just have the right pup for you:
http://www.dogpages.org.uk/forums/index.php?showforum=3

If you fancy another sighthound cross, (there are some smaller ones such as whippety cross breeds) lurcher link is very good: http://www.lurcherlink.org/llink/forum/index.php?sid=d214388ed7b58d0dd6a11d4cbccd2f26

Where abouts in the country are you?

Humphrey10

Frugalista wrote: »

For example, both Cockers and Poodles suffer from hereditary eye problems (not the same ones in both breeds) so there is a pretty good chance that a Cockerpoo would have some sort of problem in this area.

Are the genes responsible for these eye conditions recessive or dominant? If both are recessive, which I assume they are or else you would simply removing all dogs with the condition from the gene pool and bingo no more eye problems, you won't have a problem, as the puppy would have to inherit the same recessive gene from both parents, and it can't if as you say cockers and poodles don't have the same eye problems.

Or is it a mix of genes? Or it could be more complicated than that (it could easily be, there are many different ways these things work)?
Basically you can't just say 'poodles have eye problems, cockers have a different eye problem, therefore the poodle x cocker puppies could have those eye problems', you need to know what causes the eye problems.

I would expect most crosses to be far more healthy than the inbred predigree parents.