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Is there anyway of not crating a Beagle

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  • Frugalista
    Frugalista Posts: 1,747 Forumite
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    Lass wrote: »
    This initially read to me as if Raksha was suggesting that the dog was on it's own most of the day because the OP daily made a practice of going to the pub direcly after work! Sometimes it is easy to misread the intended nature of posts, that's often the problem online, and I can see were Fire Fox was coming from. I'm sure that it wasn't the intention of Raksha to be suggesting the OP was in the pub every day but I did feel that Fire Fox's intentions were good when he made his comments about the post and I felt I ought to say so.Lass x

    That's fine Lass, but I still don't see that Raksha in any way implied that the OP was in the pub daily - I think she just responded to the part in the original post where they said .......
    alamaya wrote: »
    Heres the thing we had to crate him after him getting destructive. We crate overnight and for maybe 4 hours during the day. We had to do this as a few times when we came in from the pub/work we found:

    I see that the OP has since explained what she actually meant - as you say, it is easy to misconstrue the meaning of posts - but I really don't believe that the first couple of replies were critical at all :D.
    "Men are generally more careful of the breed(ing) of their horses and dogs than of their children" - William Penn 1644-1718

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  • Fire_Fox
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    I don't have a problem at all with Frugalista, as she disagreed with me very politely! :D I read the two posts exactly as Lass suggested, and I read the OPs post as "when we came in from the pub OR work" not "when we came in from the pub AND work" since that is what a forward slash means.

    I also noted that the OP stated the dog was not left for more than four hours, which is the often touted maximum amount of time it is OK to leave a puppy alone. I felt it was a shame that more clarification was not sought before advice was given that may (or may not) be construed as critical.

    And Lass, I am a she not a he! ;)
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  • Lass
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    Fire_Fox wrote: »
    And Lass, I am a she not a he! ;)

    So sorry Fire Fox, I did actually hesitate as I was posting!!

    Lass x
  • moomin5
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    We have a rubber ball thing you can stuff with kibble and then it gradually trickles out. I used to give my dog his meals in it to slow his eating down and he'd have fun chasing it about. I also used to give him kongs and he quite likes a nylabone to chew on. The best cure for boredom is a tired dog, but i'm lucky that its quite easy to achieve that with greyhounds.

    I babygate my dogs into the kitchen but there are still things to chew in there. How about a puppy/dog pen if you want to give him more space but still restrict his access to things?
  • Raksha
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    edited 19 October 2009 at 7:56AM
    Fire_Fox wrote: »
    Please could we be more constructive with our advice? Both the above posts read to me as quite critical when we don't yet have the full story. They haven't said they go to work for eight hours and then to the pub every night!
    Fire_Fox wrote: »
    I don't have a problem at all with Frugalista, as she disagreed with me very politely! :D I read the two posts exactly as Lass suggested, and I read the OPs post as "when we came in from the pub OR work" not "when we came in from the pub AND work" since that is what a forward slash means.

    I also noted that the OP stated the dog was not left for more than four hours, which is the often touted maximum amount of time it is OK to leave a puppy alone. I felt it was a shame that more clarification was not sought before advice was given that may (or may not) be construed as critical.

    How can a question be critical?

    I was seeking the clarification you wanted me to as I was aware we probably didn't have the full story. Thanks to the OP for updating us.
    Please forgive me if my comments seem abrupt or my questions have obvious answers, I have a mental health condition which affects my ability to see things as others might.
  • Raksha
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    OP - how does your dog have his meals? Out of a bowl? Then consider you may be wasting the best resource you have to keep him occupied and mentally stimulated - try feeding his food from a Kong (if you feed wet food - this can even be frozen to make it last longer) or a Tug a Jug, Buster Cube or Dog Pyramid - it takes my Labradoodle about 20 mins to empty his Tug a Jug, and my Springer possibly a little longer (he has developed a far more effective technique than she has ;)) and he's ready to sleep when he's finished.
    Please forgive me if my comments seem abrupt or my questions have obvious answers, I have a mental health condition which affects my ability to see things as others might.
  • skiTTish
    skiTTish Posts: 1,385 Forumite
    edited 19 October 2009 at 8:16AM
    *Personally I never liked crates anyway ,i always 'personally' felt it was a lazy option as a replacement for adequate training .*
    Sounds like you pupster needs more to occupy his mind ,destructive pups are usually the most intelligent.
    Have a look at toys like kongs that you can fill with mashed banana or apple and balls that you can put kibble in that will only be dispensed if rolled around etc.I would restrict you pupster to one room if possible to start with and see if you can get friends/family to pop in and 'tire him out ' a bit at a halfway point during the day.
    Good luck :)

    *Disclaimer * this is the posters own personal view which may not be everyones personal view
  • mrcol1000
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    Do you make a big deal when you leave the house and say goodbye to the dog? Only my OH use to do this and sometimes the dog would attack stuff. Now we send her to her bed which is in the basement dining room and then go. Sometimes she will automatically go down there when we put on our coats. She sneaks back up stairs to the bedroom and goes to sleep on our bed the second the door is shut but at least she knows that we are going and she isn't coming. Only if you make a fuss of her before you go then the dog may feel it is being left out from a pack activity and take it out on the sofa.
  • foreign_correspondent
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    edited 19 October 2009 at 9:25AM
    I suggested a kong on the last page, but the OP said:
    tried the kong but unless it just has the paste in it he is not interested. He loooooves the wubba version but they are only designed for throwing and if he has it for an hour or so he has managed to destroy them.

    .. perhaps someone can suggest ways of getting doggo more interested in it..?

    -I think if his meals were served in his kong rather than in his bowl he would soon become more interested!

    eta - it does rather seem that we have got distracted into critiquing each others posting style on here, rather than responding to the OP's question...
  • mrcol1000 wrote: »
    Do you make a big deal when you leave the house and say goodbye to the dog? Only my OH use to do this and sometimes the dog would attack stuff. Now we send her to her bed which is in the basement dining room and then go. Sometimes she will automatically go down there when we put on our coats. She sneaks back up stairs to the bedroom and goes to sleep on our bed the second the door is shut but at least she knows that we are going and she isn't coming. Only if you make a fuss of her before you go then the dog may feel it is being left out from a pack activity and take it out on the sofa.


    How can two different species share a pack?:confused::confused:

    Agree that you should not be making a fuss of the dog on leaving or entering the house but to suggest its taking out its frustration at being left behind on the sofa????

    Dogs are canines, they do not have the same thinking capacity of humans. They do not think " you do this so I shall do that" A dog will eat through a sofa out of sheer boredom if there is nothing else for it to do and if its full of pent up energy - not because its owners have decided to go out to the shops and left it home alone.
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