Arnold Clark and H.H.F.S

Strider590

mickey54 wrote: »

Alfa Romao....

Were you not aware of Alpha's terrible history and reliability issues?
It's all part of the ownership experience im afraid

pstuart

My Driving Instructor son changes his new lease cars every three months, I don't know the name of the lease company but am told that they are stripped of their fittings and go straight on to a main dealer forecourt.

Just to hide the fact that they have been abused.

Well known driving school.

Must be thousands of them about.

Jean_the_bean

First registered Nov 07

Jean_the_bean

Of course - and that's the point of the fraud comment. Arnold Clark deliberately and knowingly advertised it as one owner because of the positive interpretation of that description by buyers. They misled me and anyone else responding to the advert. A fleet car is far less desirable to the buying public - so technically one owner but advertising it as such is misleading and in my view fraudulent. I'm contacting the local Trading Standards office and will update. For the record HHFS were very helpful and emailed the full service history to me. The villains here are Arnold Clark.

Kilty_2

Jean_the_bean wrote: »

Of course - and that's the point of the fraud comment. Arnold Clark deliberately and knowingly advertised it as one owner because of the positive interpretation of that description by buyers. They misled me and anyone else responding to the advert. A fleet car is far less desirable to the buying public - so technically one owner but advertising it as such is misleading and in my view fraudulent. I'm contacting the local Trading Standards office and will update. For the record HHFS were very helpful and emailed the full service history to me. The villains here are Arnold Clark.

How is one owner misleading?

Do you own a car that you hire for a day? No, the hire company (THE ONE OWNER) does!

Kilty_2

pstuart wrote: »

My Driving Instructor son changes his new lease cars every three months, I don't know the name of the lease company but am told that they are stripped of their fittings and go straight on to a main dealer forecourt.

Just to hide the fact that they have been abused..

How is removing the dual controls hiding the fact they've been abused? It's returning the car to the standard form that a 2nd owner would want, surely?

Plus your son can't be much of an instructor if his cars are abused - surely a professional driving instructor should be able to provide sufficient instruction to ensure their learner is not "abusing" the vehicle.

alleycat`

As far as i can work out (from their published accounts in 2008)

HHFS is one of 38 subsidiaries of help hire group plc.

It appears they are their fleet management arm.

Took about 3 minutes of google power to work out.

1 owner doesn't appear to be a lie.

Just happens to be a company that let lots of people borrow it for money.

I appreciate you are hacked off but it didn't exactly take long to lift the lid on this massive deception?

Inactive

One owner is a true description, buyers should ascertain who the " one owner " is before parting with their money, not after the event.

Once upon a time, main dealers wouldn't touch this stuff, they would go to auction, alas times have changed.

DaveF327

Kilty wrote: »

Plus your son can't be much of an instructor if his cars are abused - surely a professional driving instructor should be able to provide sufficient instruction to ensure their learner is not "abusing" the vehicle.

Have you ever instructed your wife to turn left only for her to indicate right? Does this mean your instruction was erroneous?

pstuart wrote: »

My Driving Instructor son changes his new lease cars every three months, I don't know the name of the lease company but am told that they are stripped of their fittings and go straight on to a main dealer forecourt.

Just to hide the fact that they have been abused.

Well known driving school.

Must be thousands of them about.

If it's AA driving school, the vehicle will have belonged to a company called Lombard. Watch out for them. Franchised driving school cars tend to be more abused than private instructors' cars due to lower standards of pupils and instruction.

colino

If it was first registered Nov 07 it's too old to be a day-hire car, it will have been on a lease (probably one driver) but one company driver versus 300 hire car drivers = your choice.