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Where do I stand with threatened legal action? Please help, Im very upset!

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  • oldone_2
    oldone_2 Posts: 974 Forumite
    edited 10 October 2009 at 9:58AM
    In investigations of this type there is no such thing as "popping in for an informal voluntary chat" These meeting only have one purpose, and that is to gather evidence.

    As I have said before do not attend, but ask them to put in writing their reasons, and under what authority they are acting.

    When they 'fined' you and you paid up, you would reasonably expect that this was the end of the matter. If they suspected fraud, this should have been brought up at the time of the issue of the 'fine'.

    Hugobunny - is there any chance of letting us have the name of the fraud investigation company.
  • Coblcris
    Coblcris Posts: 1,862 Forumite
    By all means send the names via PM if you do not wish to reveal then on an open forum.

    This 'Fraud Investigation Company' may well be beyond lawfulness so several of us are interested..

    I will not post a detailed analysis of why any attempt to issue Fraud charges against our poster is doomed to fail nor what the defense would be. I will say that the principles are well established law.

    Was not Carillion mentioned in the very recent successful OFT case re. bid rigging ?
  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    Coblcris wrote: »

    Was not Carillion mentioned in the very recent successful OFT case re. bid rigging ?

    Their name also pops up ad infinitum in Private Eye stories regarding shambolic outsourcing and PFI contracts.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • Paradigm
    Paradigm Posts: 3,660 Forumite
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    I'm struggling with this so hopefully someone with more knowledge can help.

    How can any "offence" in regard to a private parking ticket become criminal? It's all civil/contract law surely?

    Fraud is a criminal offence & can only be prosecuted by the police?

    An employer or other can allege fraud but this must be passed on to the Police for any action to be taken! Or am I totally wrong?
    Always try to be at least half the person your dog thinks you are!
  • 1984ReturnsForReal_2
    1984ReturnsForReal_2 Posts: 15,431 Forumite
    edited 10 October 2009 at 3:37PM
    Paradigm wrote: »
    I'm struggling with this so hopefully someone with more knowledge can help.

    How can any "offence" in regard to a private parking ticket become criminal? It's all civil/contract law surely?

    Fraud is a criminal offence & can only be prosecuted by the police?

    An employer or other can allege fraud but this must be passed on to the Police for any action to be taken! Or am I totally wrong?


    What she has admitted to is fraud.*

    Its the same as shoplifting in which case the retailer sometimes gives the theif the opportunity to explain themselves before they make a decision about contacting the police.

    The OP should check the full status & implications with the hospital trust where she is employed first before making a decision whether or whether not to go to the "meeting".

    The OP should disregard any advice given on here before speaking to the trust & confirming with them what the implications are for her including employment & future car parking privileges.



    Sorry about the spelling but I cant be ******.
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  • Coblcris
    Coblcris Posts: 1,862 Forumite
    What she has admitted to is fraud.

    .

    I disagree strongly, as does well established law.
  • Coblcris wrote: »
    I disagree strongly, as does well established law.

    About a month ago I was called to my car and given a fine as they noticed I had altered the date on a one-day parking ticket I had purchased previously.


    Enlighten me please as to why altering a ticket for the motives the OP mentioned should not be viewed as a possible criminal action.
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  • jfdi
    jfdi Posts: 1,031 Forumite
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    Well, if it's QA (or similar) you work at, then Carillion employ, on behalf of the NHS Trust, the lower skilled 'civilian' staff (by & large), and the NHS Trust employ the medical staff & clerks etc - so could they be, or be becoming, your Employers?

    The 2 organisations are so tightly tied - thanks to PFI etc - that I'd definitely take Union advice or similar before going any further.

    If by any chance it IS the hospital I mention above, are you sure there's not been instructions to staff (except Drs, Consultants etc) that they're not to park on site but must use the Park & Ride or make alternative arrangements? I'm sure that was in the local paper some months back.

    Good Luck!
    :mad: :j:D:beer::eek::A:p:rotfl::cool::):(:T
  • Paradigm
    Paradigm Posts: 3,660 Forumite
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    Enlighten me please as to why altering a ticket for the motives the OP mentioned should not be viewed as a possible criminal action.

    Because the pay & display ticket you buy on a PPC car park has no real legal standing, it's a civil contract (mostly not enforceable) & not bound by criminal law!

    That's the way I see it but, as I asked above, I'm prepared to be put right :)
    Always try to be at least half the person your dog thinks you are!
  • Paradigm wrote: »
    Because the pay & display ticket you buy on a PPC car park has no real legal standing, it's a civil contract (mostly not enforceable) & not bound by criminal law!

    That's the way I see it but, as I asked above, I'm prepared to be put right :)


    I would of thought altering ANY document in an attempt to gain a financial advantage is a criminal offence regardless if it was for a civil "service" or not.

    Sorry. I see it as a criminal offence.

    Not that I am an expert..
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