Royal Mail national strike looms for Christmas

Pssst

bo_drinker wrote: »

According to the news tonight they will bring the country to its knees, bo11ox we are on our knees as it is. As many have said they are no longer what they once were, just because they have the word "ROYAL" in the title does not make them the big player any more. T b h I couldn't give a fk if I never see my xmas cards let alone get them by new year, who cares. It has been a lottery for a while now when the post lands on the mat, if some is a bit late tough. The firms who are reliant on post will just go elsewhere and if they get a good deal/service will not go back. Every one and their dog are struggling one way or another so timing is not on their side in the long run.

I feel your pain and understand but there are now legions of lower ranks who are thoroughly fed up of being shafted by middle and higher management who,in times of recession, are bullying the lower orders in order to retain their own comfy postions. Poop flows downhill and it is those at the bottom of the hill who are being browbeaten and bullied big time. BA is another example. Thier management are rubbish also. I have a friend who works for them who says he and his colleagues are so fed up with it that they are prepared to strike at the next conflict,coming soon,and they dont care if it ends up crippling the company.

If you get arrogant,bully boy managers..this is what happens.

torontoboy45

Pssst wrote: »

I feel your pain and understand but there are now legions of lower ranks who are thoroughly fed up of being shafted by middle and higher management who,in times of recession, are bullying the lower orders in order to retain their own comfy postions. Poop flows downhill and it is those at the bottom of the hill who are being browbeaten and bullied big time. BA is another example. Thier management are rubbish also. I have a friend who works for them who says he and his colleagues are so fed up with it that they are prepared to strike at the next conflict,coming soon,and they dont care if it ends up crippling the company.

If you get arrogant,bully boy managers..this is what happens.

and it doesn't stop with BA/RM. there seems to be plenty of medium/large size co.s using the recession as an excuse to squeeze their staff, even where the co.s remain largely unaffected.

I started work in the rail industry when it was a state industry and a national laughing stock. FF to today and it's an even bigger joke - the laugh being confined largely to staff and industry observers.

it has become a chaotic, fragmented, inefficient and expensive mess under privatisation, largely run by floundering, incompetent bully-boys whose antics have got many of the passengers wishing for the bad old days of british rail.

the train operating co.s offer an inferior service to the public but gladly help themselves to 'profits' whilst the poor bloody taxpayer continues to stump up subsidies ( 3x more in real terms, if you believe the NAO figures,
than br rec'd in its last yr of operating).

make your minds up: do you want the RM or not? if you don't: scrap it and watch the 'free' market offer 'choice' much in the same way as the utility businesses.

if it's the irrelevance that bendix et al keep banging on about why don't we all just disappear down to the pub and talk about something else (e.g. we all work so bloody hard in the private sector yet - somehow - we still find time to post here, even in the middle of the day!!).

torontoboy45

bendix wrote: »

I only read the FT and The Economist. I lost interest in Cheryl Cole's fashion tips years ago.

What is the Royal Mail's side in all this? I dunno. It seems like an archaic inefficient organisation providing crap service, performed by underachieving but self-righteous unionised staff. An organisation, in addition, which has failed to keep up with the new world in which it operates and whose raison d'etre seems to be declining every year that passes.

A classic public sector organisation in other words.

You don't expect me to defend it, do you?

For the record, I fully support the strike because it will serve two key purposes. It will kill the Royal Mail finally and free up the delivery industry to real competitive forces, and the workers themselves will - foolishly - strike themselves out of a job.

It seems a good result all round to me. Bring it on.[/QUOT

'a classic public sector organisation'; my wife works for one of these. it's called a county council; she's a teacher; assuming you didn't attend private school, you might like to thank her kind for your excellent spelling and grammar.

custardy

Pssst wrote: »

Perhaps its top heavy? According to a postie union rep this morning on 5 live, and i have to take him at his word, by the POs figs alone,50,000 jobs have already been shed in recent years. The proportion of managers to workers is excessive. The FS pension scheme has been curtailed but not for high ranking managers, and the same managers get annual bonuses,,presumably for vflogging the lower ranks and driving up prod stats etc..

You can only manage if your underlings respects you.

We have useless managers in my company and most of the lads have little or no respect for them.

the number of managers has doubled (and some weeks more) since i started in RM in my own office
while staffing levels go down year on year

there have been some manager cuts(not many) as RM recently had a regional shake increasing the size of the regions to cut down managers.
shame one of them is on suspension for cooking the books on quality of service figures...........

dopester

bendix wrote: »

People bank electronically. They use emails and faxes. The service isnt so great now PRECISELY because the service is not needed anymore except in the examples other posters have educated me on.

Overall, though, the postal service hasn't gone into decline because Royal Mail wanted it to. It has gone into decline because the demand for its increasingly archaic services are no longer needed.

When fax machines began to become used in any significant number, US Mail (or was it the US Post Office) made a push to US Government to seek a charge/levy be imposed on each fax sent as they argued it came under their delivery licence / remit.

Of course it was totally ignored because they had no way of enforcing it. New tech and other businesses had emerged to threaten their interests and they didn't like it.

new_home_owner_3

Really2 wrote: »

More shocking if you said royal mail were not on strike this Christmas.

Time to get tough.
Sack anyone who strikes, there are plenty who want jobs out there. That should test thire resolve.

What a load of !!!!!!, there are plenty of peole who want jobs out there, but with wage cuts and the new terms and conditions companies are putting on employees using the excuse of the recession, Royal mail are as busy as ever especially with everyone buying stuff online, these companies just use it as a excuse to treat the worker like !!!!!!.

There are plenty of people who want to do a days graft but you can only go so far, it gets to the stage that they might aswell sit on their !!!!!! at home and get jobseekers allowance than go to to work for a extra 80 pound a week and have !!!!!! terms.

would you do it??

Cleaver

Royal Mail national strike looms for Christmas

When I don't get around to sending Christmas cards yet again this year at least I'll have a bit of an excuse.

JasonLVC

Just a gentle reminder for everyone.


The last posting day before Christmas was yesterday.

Really2

Well I wonder what will be put on instead of "Postman Pat" on cbeebies?

Working conditions seem to be good for him.

He usually only delivers one item a day.
He as got a 2 vans and a helicopter!
He gets delayed everyday and never gets a Bo!!ocking.

Davesnave

Really2 wrote: »

Well I wonder what will be put on instead of "Postman Pat" on cbeebies?

Working conditions seem to be good for him.

He usually only delivers one item a day.
He as got a 2 vans and a helicopter!
He gets delayed everyday and never gets a Bo!!ocking.

And he still can't afford two pairs of specs!:rotfl: