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marklv

Harry_Powell wrote: »

Ah, the old "I didn't have the opportunity to make something of myself. It's everybody else's fault but mine" argument. Valid in our Grand Parent's day but not in ours. Some people at my school went onto University, some people went onto prison and most fell somewhere in between, we all had similar backgrounds. People find their own level in life based on their self belief, ambition and work ethic.

You have all the compassion of a cobra snake, congratulations. Of course, you are totally wrong as well. :rotfl:

People are different. They have different parental backgrounds, upbringing and levels of IQ. A lot of people are simply incapable of going to higher education and expecting them to do so is very, very silly. Many people can only do manual jobs because that is all they are able to do - simple as that! Does that make them any less human or deserving of help? Of course not. A good refuse collector is as deserving of recognition as a brain surgeon; I'm not suggesting that they earn the same, but there is no reason to despise someone just because he does a menial job.

marklv

bendix wrote: »

Lol . .there is nothing so heartwarming as being patronised by those who have made virtually no progress in their lives.

Thanks marklv. You've made my day.

I have made considerable progress in my life, but I'm not one of those 'hungry' types who need to work 16 hours a day in an effort to get rich. I want to reach a certain level and stay there. I'm happier that way. I know some very sad people who work like mad and make multiples of my salary and have virtually no life outside work. If that's the pace of life they want, they're welcome to it - I have a personal life to live.

Harry_Powell

marklv wrote: »

You have all the compassion of a cobra snake, congratulations. Of course, you are totally wrong as well. :rotfl:

People are different. They have different parental backgrounds, upbringing and levels of IQ. A lot of people are simply incapable of going to higher education and expecting them to do so is very, very silly. Many people can only do manual jobs because that is all they are able to do - simple as that! Does that make them any less human or deserving of help? Of course not. A good refuse collector is as deserving of recognition as a brain surgeon; I'm not suggesting that they earn the same, but there is no reason to despise someone just because he does a menial job.

Just because someone goes onto higher education does not make them a success, it's what you do in your life that decides that. Someone who is not academic can still go on and do very well for themselves, such as learning a trade and perhaps even starting a business based on that trade. The point you seem to make is that those who do get off their @rses to better themselves should support those who don't want to. No thanks.

Harry_Powell

Harry_Powell wrote: »

People find their own level in life based on their self belief, ambition and work ethic.

marklv wrote: »

You have all the compassion of a cobra snake, congratulations. Of course, you are totally wrong as well. :rotfl:

marklv wrote: »

I want to reach a certain level and stay there. I'm happier that way.

I keep forgetting what a fool this marklv character is. :rolleyes:

bendix

Harry_Powell wrote: »

I keep forgetting what a fool this marklv character is. :rolleyes:

I don't know how you can forget. He makes a point of reminding us with every post he makes.

marklv

Harry_Powell wrote: »

Just because someone goes onto higher education does not make them a success, it's what you do in your life that decides that. Someone who is not academic can still go on and do very well for themselves, such as learning a trade and perhaps even starting a business based on that trade. The point you seem to make is that those who do get off their @rses to better themselves should support those who don't want to. No thanks.

Well, I can tell you there are many who work like slaves and still only earn modest salaries on minimum wage. You are muddle headed. I bet you'd bring back the workhouse if you could!

marklv

Harry_Powell wrote: »

I keep forgetting what a fool this marklv character is. :rolleyes:

Just because I disagree with you or share your values?

Lokolo

marklv wrote: »

Just because I disagree with you or share your values?

No both, at the same time. Its contradicting.

You say people can't get to a level and be happy where they are. Then say thats what you want. Eh?

bendix

marklv wrote: »

I bet you'd bring back the workhouse if you could!

Only if they were privatised and run on profitable lines. :rotfl:

I'm curious marklv. How do you feel about the idea of making the unemployed do work or undergo training in return for their benefits? For or against?

marklv

bendix wrote: »

Only if they were privatised and run on profitable lines. :rotfl:

I'm curious marklv. How do you feel about the idea of making the unemployed do work or undergo training in return for their benefits? For or against?

You would be funny if you didn't mean what you say, you really would.

The idea of making unemployed people do menial work for benefits belongs in Nazi Germany or the middle ages - not in the modern civilised world. Why should anyone work for a pittance of £60 a week? You could always give the unemployed the option of doing work for the legally agreed minimum wage, but not less.

Moreover, if you move unemployed people into forced labour, as you suggest, when are they ever going to have the chance of looking for proper jobs? Or have the time to attend interviews? It's the most idiotic thing I've heard from you yet (and I've heard a lot).