DFW running club part 4!! ALL ARE WELCOME!!

beer_tins

RichOneday wrote: »

There you go:

http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/mcmillanrunningcalculator.htm

thanking you muchly, Sir!

beer_tins

Eeek! It says if I'm aiming for a 45min 10K (and a 21:40 5k) I should run the marathon in 3:31:11. I think a more sensible target for me would be 3:45, as it's my first mara! Even that's sounding pretty amitious in my head!

RichOneday_2

beer_tins wrote: »

Eeek! It says if I'm aiming for a 45min 10K (and a 21:40 5k) I should run the marathon in 3:31:11. I think a more sensible target for me would be 3:45, as it's my first mara! Even that's sounding pretty amitious in my head!

Yep, the equations will hold good up to 1/2 marathon, but there are just too many unknowns in your first marathon to be able to predict that accurately.

With a few under your belt, the general idea of 2x 1/2 marathon time + 10 minutes is usually close to the mark.

In Blackpool this year (which was my first for a long time) the result equated to 2x 1/2 marathon time (at that time) + 17 minutes.

If you manage a 21:40 5K you should be able to do a 1:37ish half ..... so 3:45 would seem reasonable from that. That would be 2x 1/2 marathon time + 31 minutes.

beer_tins

RichOneday wrote: »

Yep, the equations will hold good up to 1/2 marathon, but there are just too many unknowns in your first marathon to be able to predict that accurately.

With a few under your belt, the general idea of 2x 1/2 marathon time + 10 minutes is usually close to the mark.

In Blackpool this year (which was my first for a long time) the result equated to 2x 1/2 marathon time (at that time) + 17 minutes.

If you manage a 21:40 5K you should be able to do a 1:37ish half ..... so 3:45 would seem reasonable from that. That would be 2x 1/2 marathon time + 31 minutes.

Cool, thanks again. I'm beginning to realise that my 21:00 time on Crispy's challenge is also more ambitious than I realised at first!

becky_rtw

Dont worry mine is 22 mins and that is very tough - prob about the same considering your pb is better than mine

RichOneday_2

beer_tins wrote: »

Cool, thanks again. I'm beginning to realise that my 21:00 time on Crispy's challenge is also more ambitious than I realised at first!

No point in having soft targets!!;)

beer_tins

So what you're both saying to me is: grow a pair an deliver on your time!

Understood loud and clear! It should be achievable, given that I'm just under 55% WAVA at the moment, so plenty of room for improvement! I'm still going for a 3:45 mara though, as that needs to be delivered in April :eek:

becky_rtw

I also think when planning times for marathons its good to work off your training pace currently rather than a planned pace for a distance.

You may find 45 mins for 10k is a good 6 months+ away if you trained for 10k specifically, but because you will be marathon training you probably wont get so many speed improvements...basically last time I was almost as fast as now, except the long runs I was running at 10:30 mins/mile ish and my marathon time turned out to be 10:21 mins/mile.

Now however, I'm not that much faster over 5k but I can run 19 miles at 9:37 so taking into account tapering I should drop to 9:27 keeping as I am now - so I am only looking to improve by 17 seconds a mile over the next 15 weeks - but thats a lot over 26 miles - does that make sense??

tirlittan

Just did mine on the best 5k time I've done. I should be able to do 4miles in 34mins and my best so far is 38 I think.

I'm at home filling my bin with used tissues...:(

becky_rtw

beer_tins wrote: »

So what you're both saying to me is: grow a pair an deliver on your time!

Understood loud and clear! It should be achievable, given that I'm just under 55% WAVA at the moment, so plenty of room for improvement! I'm still going for a 3:45 mara though, as that needs to be delivered in April :eek:

No not at all - I was saying targets need to be tough - even if you miss them you will get ruddy fit in the process