Viewings of my rented property

Catblue

You've done the right thing and you've been fair about giving the agents access when it is convenient for you.

The only other thing to mention is that if some of your valuables did go missing during these viewings when you are not there, your insurers will probably tell you to take a running jump when you try to claim. Yet another reason to deny viewings while you are not there.

rolo-polo1965

Catblue wrote: »

You've done the right thing and you've been fair about giving the agents access when it is convenient for you.

The only other thing to mention is that if some of your valuables did go missing during these viewings when you are not there, your insurers will probably tell you to take a running jump when you try to claim. Yet another reason to deny viewings while you are not there.

Why can the agents not see this. I think they are incompetent really

MissMoneypenny

Quizzical_Squirrel wrote: »

The letting agency I was using refused to give them a reference. This action didn't seem that onerous to me but they told me the tenants would find it more more difficult to find another similar letting without their reference as other letting agents would understand the significance.

So the agency weren't giving a bad reference but the absence of one would speak volumes to another agent.

When I rented I had never rented before. I told the LA that and they said that in that case, they wouldn't need references. They didn't even credit reference me.

We have so many rentals standing empty now in this area, that LLs just want to get someone in.

MissMoneypenny

dgl1001 wrote: »

Quiet enjoyment is a statutory right but the LL can still enter the property where they have agreed suitable terms to give appropiate notice to enter i.e. if there is a clause a in agreement allowing viewings prior to the tenancy ending

Quiet enjoyment is common law, not statutory law. Just like murder isn't statutory law too. I remember what our barrister NDG said when she was on this site.:D

According to the House of Lords, quiet enjoyment is
"It is a covenant that the tenant's lawful possession will not be interfered with by the landlord or anyone claiming under him."

You can stick what you like in a contract, but you can't enforce it if it goes against the law. You cannot take away your tenants legal rights.

hamblettamaud

i think the bottom line is:

• if you are a pedant you can tell the landlord he cannot enter
• if you are a human being you can reach a compromise agreement

Cannon_Fodder

dgl1001 wrote: »

People shold also be reminded that Shelter are a charity and do not make any laws whatsoever

I think the mention of Shelter is just for easy reference to a "clear english" answer. page 8 of http://england.shelter.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0017/23390/Advice_booklet_private_tenancies.pdf applies, if a print out is needed.


I don't think you want the "man on the Clapham omnibus" trying to decipher whether Common Law still applies or newer Acts, trying to "tidy up and clarify" common practice, should take precedence...

http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?activeTextDocId=1851003
Human Rights Act 1998

Part II
The First Protocol


Article 1
Protection of property
"Every natural or legal person is entitled to the peaceful enjoyment of his possessions. No one shall be deprived of his possessions except in the public interest and subject to the conditions provided for by law and by the general principles of international law.
The preceding provisions shall not, however, in any way impair the right of a State to enforce such laws as it deems necessary to control the use of property in accordance with the general interest or to secure the payment of taxes or other contributions or penalties."


Having said which, to maintain a reasonable relationship with your LA and LL is a good idea, both for reference and deposit return purposes...

Fire_Fox

hamblettamaud wrote: »

i think the bottom line is:

• if you are a pedant you can tell the landlord he cannot enter
• if you are a human being you can reach a compromise agreement

The OP said right at the start he wanted to be present at viewings not that he was outright refusing entry.

Blackpool_Saver

What kind of insane agent would be prepared to enter a property with a dog present and the owner not home? and how can they show the kitchen if the dog is in there?

Oh yes mr and mrs viewer its ok the barking dog won't go for you but you can't look at the kitchen.....total bollox

Jomo

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

When I rented I had never rented before. I told the LA that and they said that in that case, they wouldn't need references. They didn't even credit reference me.

We have so many rentals standing empty now in this area, that LLs just want to get someone in.

If I paid a letting agency to let out my flat I would expect them to check out everybody, even those who had never rented before.

Afterall...this is what I am paying them for

Regshoe

tizhimi wrote: »

everything on this website is OPINION and nothing is fact, if you want to pass a website off as fact you aught to have an offical "legal" webpage. A moneysaving forum is not factaul website.

Nevertheless as the purpose of this website (and by extension the forum) is to help people we should all try to be as helpful and accurate as possible (being polite isn't a bad idea too).

Although, as you say, anything on a forum like this should be read with due caution it is nice when people can be clear about when they "think" something is the case and when they "know" it is the case, e.g. it is reasonable that a conveyancing solicitor speaks with confidence about conveyancing (having of course given a disclaimer that he/she does not accept liability and you should get formal advice if you are to rely on something).

That is why I preface what I say with "I think/believe/am fairly confident/am informed that....." etc. (Unless the question is regarding mathematics, or some areas of accounting where I can answer more confidently!)

Cheers
Jim