3 points and £60 fine for brake lights

rev_henry

nearlyrich wrote: »

Funnily enough a lot of "real criminals" get caught as a result of checks on vehicles, remember Peter Sutcliffe? People who drive vehicles with faulty lights are fair game for a stop and everyone should check their lights every week minimum it's not hard.

Very true. Wasn't there some big organised criminal a while ago who they only managed to bang up becuase of tax evasion? Or is that who you're talking about? Sorry for the half baked story.

Rolandtheroadie

rev_henry wrote: »

Very true. Wasn't there some big organised criminal a while ago who they only managed to bang up becuase of tax evasion? Or is that who you're talking about? Sorry for the half baked story.

Yep, Al Capone lol.

nearlyrich

I was talking about the Yorkshire Ripper, he was caught on a vehical check.

CopperPlate_2

vaporate wrote: »

A 'real criminal' where someone causes GBH on a innocent individual, or rape.

The OP is a product of the sadistic police taking the !!!!. They, the police, 'could of' given a friendly warning for a first time 'offence'.

Or mows someone down whilst driving a defective car...?

These are the endorsable offences from direct.gov.uk:

CU10 Using a vehicle with defective brakes 3 points + fine

CU20 Causing or likely to cause danger by reason of use of unsuitable vehicle or using a vehicle with parts or accessories (excluding brakes, steering or tyres) in a dangerous condition 3 points + fine

Before the car has been prohibited there must've been a justifiable concern that it's not roadworthy - i.e. no-one can tell if you are braking or not, and been examined before the prohibition is made.

In terms of the 'friendly warning' - consider what would happen if the OP had driven round the corner and knocked a pedestrian down...it later coming to light that officers had stopped the car (which is actually not roadworthy if there are no brake lights) a few moments earlier but had knowingly then allowed the driver to drive off...

And, sorry, the OP says he hasn't had a 'ticket' in 20 years...says nothing about him not having any 'previous offences' of any kind.

sebastianj

Paradigm wrote: »

Have you been issued with a Fixed Penalty Notice? If so they are pretty hard to defend.

I think they said £30 fixed penalty or if I want seven days to think and take the license to the station or go to court, then the penalty is £60 +3 Points.

Regards "they terminated my MOT"... I'll think you will find they have given you a prohibition notice giving you a certain amount of time to get the problem fixed before you can drive on the road???

He definitely said re-Mot, I need to check the facts.

Rev-Henry If your lights have JUST stopped working on your current journey then you're ok to continue but you MUST get them sorted out before the next journey. That is what the law states on this.

This is what happened, I don't know why they felt it was necessary to issue me with a ticket.
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seb

sebastianj

CopperPlate wrote: »

Or mows someone down whilst driving a defective car...?

These are the endorsable offences from direct.gov.uk:

CU10 Using a vehicle with defective brakes 3 points + fine

And, sorry, the OP says he hasn't had a 'ticket' in 20 years...says nothing about him not having any 'previous offences' of any kind.

It is day light, I have not had any kind of convictions in the Past 30 years.
seb

alanrowell

vaporate wrote: »

The OP is a product of the sadistic police taking the !!!!. They, the police, 'could of' given a friendly warning for a first time 'offence'.

They can now do him for crimes against spelling - "break" lights

CopperPlate_2

sebastianj wrote: »

It is day light, I have not had any kind of convictions in the Past 30 years.
seb

Sorry, wasn't inferring that you had, just trying to stop random assumptions, that's all.

There are loads of factors as to why you might've been given the ticket. How far from your home you were stopped (could you have reasonably made it 50 yards down the road, or had to travel on motorways and drive long distances, etc); the general manner of driving overall prior to being stopped, whether the officers themselves had to brake suddenly to avoid running into the back of you (or if they saw someone else having to do similar?), the overall condition of the vehicle regardless of whether there were faulty brake lights or not, your attitude to them on being stopped, whether you got a jobsworth traffic cop or not - the list could go on.

Best thing to do is now go back to the garage that carried out the repairs but I'd go to another garage first and get them to have a look at the car and get their opinion/or get them to do the repairs, before you go to the original one as they might try and fix up their bad workmanship on the basis that you might consider legal action against them.

Red_Cat

Criminal spelling.

Rolandtheroadie

It's ignited my interest but heres a thread on another site virtually the same (might even be the same copper lol). http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=77800