aga wenlock multi burning stove a couple of things need help with

paulbro

Hi Philious,

I've just bought a wenlock classic aswell. I've been trying to get a Hetas engineer to do the install but no one seems to want the job in my area. I've called 6 different Hetas approved installers and none of them would even look at the job. I've therefore decided to carry out the install myself.

Did you install a flexible flue liner or connect directly to an existing flue? I currently have a 7 inch pot liner installed and was wondering if I could connect into that from the 5 inch Enamel pipe from the stove using some firewool. I had my chimney swept last week (not by a NACS sweep) and he told me that I should connect to my existing pot liner and that I had an excellent draw on the chimney. I've had a quick read through the building regs and it looks like I would just need my existing flue inspected/tested.

Apologies for side tracking the thread.

muckybutt

paulbro wrote: »

Hi Philious,

I've just bought a wenlock classic aswell. I've been trying to get a Hetas engineer to do the install but no one seems to want the job in my area. I've called 6 different Hetas approved installers and none of them would even look at the job. I've therefore decided to carry out the install myself.

Did you install a flexible flue liner or connect directly to an existing flue? I currently have a 7 inch pot liner installed and was wondering if I could connect into that from the 5 inch Enamel pipe from the stove using some firewool. I had my chimney swept last week (not by a NACS sweep) and he told me that I should connect to my existing pot liner and that I had an excellent draw on the chimney. I've had a quick read through the building regs and it looks like I would just need my existing flue inspected/tested.

Apologies for side tracking the thread.

Sounds ok to me ! so as long as the sweep can still get acess and there is no risk of fumes re-entering the room then theres no problem, clay lined chimneys are nice to sweep as are flexible one as theres less nook n crannies for the soot to collect, you again would probably only need a sweep once every year, just make sure wood is seasoned and dry.

mariat

We have just bought a woodburner, and looks like we'll be installing it ourselves. According to Building regs J, any stove over 6Kw needs an external air supply, and there's a formula for how big it needs to be. I know for our stove (6Kw), it needs a 4 inch hole.

A._Badger

mariat wrote: »

We have just bought a woodburner, and looks like we'll be installing it ourselves. According to Building regs J, any stove over 6Kw needs an external air supply, and there's a formula for how big it needs to be. I know for our stove (6Kw), it needs a 4 inch hole.

I have to say this is one of the most stupid regulations I have ever encountered. It takes no account of the volume of air in the room, nor the state of the existing air supply.

Sometimes I wonder if these people make up rules simply because they can.

Lotus-eater

mariat wrote: »

We have just bought a woodburner, and looks like we'll be installing it ourselves. According to Building regs J, any stove over 6Kw needs an external air supply,

Yes, and as our house has enough air leaks already and after living with a hole in the wall for the rayburn for years, I'd had enough.
So I blocked up the hole and got a 5.5kw stove, heats the whole downstairs brilliantly.

Welshwoofs

After a couple of years depending on a Hunter Herald multi-fuel stove for my hot water and central heating I've learnt a few hard lessons:

1. All smokeless fuel is not the same. I've used some stuff which immediately blackened up the glass and smelt acrid and awful. After a lot of trial and error I now use Maxibrite nuggets which I can state, hand on heart, do not blacken the glass, have great heat output and long burn.
2. Get a good glass cleaner. You really don't want to use anything that you have to scrub at the glass with. I've used a few different products and currently have Stovax glass cleaner which is working well (I'd also avoid the spray can varieties as they tend to clog up)
3. Little twigs make the best kindling. When I prune back shrubs and trees I put all the twigs aside to season and they start a fire going much quicker than kindled logs. You do also need a couple of firelighters at the bottom.
4. If your stove has different grate/grill settings, make sure you know which one to use for wood burning and which for coal.

Oh and if you're intending to sell or rent your house out any time soon, whack in an air-brick of you'll fall foul of the ruddy building regs!

A._Badger

I agree with Welshwoofs about Maxibrite, though my ever-obliging coal merchant has just kindly donated a couple of samples of alternatives to try. If I find either works better than Maxibrite on my stove (also a Hunter Herald) I'll report back.

philious

paulbro wrote: »

Hi Philious,

I've just bought a wenlock classic aswell. I've been trying to get a Hetas engineer to do the install but no one seems to want the job in my area. I've called 6 different Hetas approved installers and none of them would even look at the job. I've therefore decided to carry out the install myself.

Did you install a flexible flue liner or connect directly to an existing flue? I currently have a 7 inch pot liner installed and was wondering if I could connect into that from the 5 inch Enamel pipe from the stove using some firewool. I had my chimney swept last week (not by a NACS sweep) and he told me that I should connect to my existing pot liner and that I had an excellent draw on the chimney. I've had a quick read through the building regs and it looks like I would just need my existing flue inspected/tested.

Apologies for side tracking the thread.

Update
I moved the stove out alittle but didn`t seem to make any difference so I then reopened an air vent I`d blocked up and plastered over and now the stove works well and lights first time every time so thanks to muckybutt :T for his advise from the very beginning
I bought some Stovax glass cleaner which works brilliantly spray on wipe off simple, but we still get a blacked glass every morning when we burn over night so I guess we will have to put up with that for the time being.
The first thing we did was have the chimney swept by an approved sweeper and asked him whether the chimney would or would not be suitable for a stove, he said it would be fine to just put a registery plate in with a sweep hatch very important and he is booked for every six monthly intervals.
I did alot of research on the net before purchasing a stove have a look here: stovesonline.co.uk
very good site
Install is very straight forward good luck, I think I might try that cream cleaner when the class cleaner runs out. thanks guys

muckybutt

philious wrote: »

Update
I moved the stove out alittle but didn`t seem to make any difference so I then reopened an air vent I`d blocked up and plastered over and now the stove works well and lights first time every time so thanks to muckybutt :T for his advise from the very beginning
The first thing we did was have the chimney swept by an approved sweeper and asked him whether the chimney would or would not be suitable for a stove, he said it would be fine to just put a registery plate in with a sweep hatch very important and he is booked for every six monthly intervals.

Im not gonna say I told you so :rolleyes: glad you got it sorted and thankyou