Petition to No.10 regarding Childcare arrangements!

sparkle03

MrsTine wrote: »

Actually the reason is not just to "stop people doing each other a favour" it's also for the childrens protection... leaving a child with someone that is not regulated and checked on and doesn't have relevant training to care for other peoples children is probably in 99.9% of cases not a problem and the child is safe and nothing will ever happen... but what about the 0.1% of cases... we bash them for missing things like the recent cases brought to light in the media - but what we will never know is the amount of cases that might be missed if rules like this were abolished.

Another point is that if you are not registered as a childminder then IF something happened to the child you were looking after in addition to yours then you would have NO protection in the case of accusations or if the child was injured even if it wasn't neglect.

Should the system be looked at? Yes more than likely Should it be a priority given the state of the country at the moment? I don't think so...

A kneejerk reaction to ONE case-scenario with a narked off pair of women because the world doesn't understand that THEY are an exception to the rules of the country is not going to get my signature or support I'm afraid...

Its a bit unfair to call them a narked off pair of women isnt it? I think this affects alot of people and should be brought to the attention of the public! How would you feel if the government started telling you who could and couldnt look after your child?

MrsTinks

People - posts that get personal or abusive will be removed. Please stay on topic - this thread technically does not belong on this board but I'm allowing it to stay because it has SOME relevance being as it concerns children and families... In order for that to continue it needs to stay on topic though...

sparkle03

Is that aimed at me? Or just the posts in general?

iamana1ias

pelirocco wrote: »

Because when those children grow up they will be paying for your pensions , your healthcare and wiping your backside when you become too infirm to do it yourself .

Children are an investment for 'everyones' future

I'm planning on dying young . Did you decide to have children because you wanted them or because you wanted to provide workers for the future?

MrsTinks

sparkle03 wrote: »

Its a bit unfair to call them a narked off pair of women isnt it? I think this affects alot of people and should be brought to the attention of the public! How would you feel if the government started telling you who could and couldnt look after your child?

They do - and that means my daughter will be going to a registered childminder or a registered nursery.
Should it be brought to the attention of the public? Certainly by all means - but do I think it's a priority for this country right now? Something that Mr Brown should spend any time looking at? Nope - I'd rather he tried to fix the other problems personally... like the rising unemployment for one...

MrsTinks

sparkle03 wrote: »

Is that aimed at me? Or just the posts in general?

That was in fact aimed at a post I had to remove... not at you.

MrsTinks

iamana1ias - could I suggest that your post might benefit from say the removal of that last paragraph?

cbrown372

MrsTine wrote: »

Actually the reason is not just to "stop people doing each other a favour" it's also for the childrens protection... leaving a child with someone that is not regulated and checked on and doesn't have relevant training to care for other peoples children is probably in 99.9% of cases not a problem and the child is safe and nothing will ever happen... but what about the 0.1% of cases... we bash them for missing things like the recent cases brought to light in the media - but what we will never know is the amount of cases that might be missed if rules like this were abolished.

Another point is that if you are not registered as a childminder then IF something happened to the child you were looking after in addition to yours then you would have NO protection in the case of accusations or if the child was injured even if it wasn't neglect.

Should the system be looked at? Yes more than likely Should it be a priority given the state of the country at the moment? I don't think so...

A kneejerk reaction to ONE case-scenario with a narked off pair of women because the world doesn't understand that THEY are an exception to the rules of the country is not going to get my signature or support I'm afraid...

You've obviously missed the point made byMutantk that a person cannot get registered to look after a single child so not a ONE case-scenario at all.

As for abusive comments perhaps you might like to edit your passage describing the ladies as "narked off pair of women".

sparkle03

MrsTine wrote: »

They do - and that means my daughter will be going to a registered childminder or a registered nursery.
Should it be brought to the attention of the public? Certainly by all means - but do I think it's a priority for this country right now? Something that Mr Brown should spend any time looking at? Nope - I'd rather he tried to fix the other problems personally... like the rising unemployment for one...

Well thats fine, we are all entitled to our own opinions though and sometimes friends ( who we completely trust ) are a better option for children to be looked after by.

Just because someone is registered doesnt mean they are going to look after your child any better than say a friend who also has children and knows your child.

My mum was a registered chilminder and a very good one at that. It isnt easy looking after someone elses children. An older lady who lives directly across the road to my mum is also a childminder. When my mum discovered she was putting the children in buggys in front of the tv for the majority of the day she called it in to her ofsted inspector. The lady across the road got a letter saying she will be having an 'inspection' on such and such a day at such and such a time .... when she was inspected she had the children out doing activites and what not, so all was well but in the days following the children ended up back in the buggys. It was always interesting to see the older children didnt stay in her care for very long!

I also have a fair few nursery nurse friends who have told me of some of the things that go on in the nurseries they have worked in. It doesnt always do what it says on the tin.

As parents we should have the choice of where our children go to be looked after and any loving and caring parent wouldnt leave any child with someone who is not capable of looking after them to a standard that would please them.

Your right Tine the country is in a state and unemployment is high but what if Mr Brown sorts out the state of unemployment and there are jobs for people - Do certain parents have to lose out because they have to send their children to Ofsted registered childcare providers rather than a friend or family member? (In all honesty Im not sure what the rules are on family members like cousins or sister in laws so that could be meaning less) but I hope you understand what I mean?

oystercatcher

No-one seems to realise that most !!!!!philes are apparently 'normal' people to all intents and purposes. They deliberately arrange to work with children or helpfully look after them so they can fulfill their own wishes !!

OK so most people aren't like this, and there will always be some who slip through the net but all these rules are there to protect our children and try and prevent some of these dreaful things happening.

Also to protect from the simpler everyday dangers that a non registered person may not have thought about. If a parent choses not to use a stairgate for their own child or not to hide away the knives and bleach then that is their decision but once they are regularly looking after someone elses child it becomes more serious and standards have to be imposed. If one of those children had a dreadful accident in the care of the other worker then what happens can the parent sue the carer for negiligence? Was the parent negligent leaving the child with an unregistered minder? There will certainly be sparks flying if a child is injured, disabled or even dies ! Sadly these accidents still happen they're in the papers frequently !

It's not that difficult to register with ofstead and if they are requiring extra safety measures then maybe they are things that should be done anyway to protect your own child!