Petition to No.10 regarding Childcare arrangements!

Susan_Frost

Surely the two women already trust each other, for goodness sake.

Let's make it simple, take all kids into care at birth, put them in one big nursery where everyone gets exactly the same as everyone else, bring in all the tick lists we can and then we can produce lots of cloned people by the time they are let out again to their families at 21.

Well, isn't that where it is all heading.

When will common sense reign ??

Bye the way, you do know the next thing will be that even though it is a mutual agreement, and no money changing hands, that they will probably still be taxed as receiving payment in kind. The Taxman will obviously want his share, hence, they want you to go to a registered childminder, declared earnings and all that.

I'm getting fed up of all this stuff.

Mutantk

How sad that despite me making it clear (or so I thought) that I thought it would be interesting to discuss the points I made and see what people thought and have an adult, intelligent debate on a matter that a lot of people have opinions on, some people just jump in and be bolshy and spoil it with their smart comments and personal jibes. Iamana1as you most certainly do not pay for my children, my husband and I have both been tax payers since age 16 and get nothing more than the basics that all families get. It's no different to me saying that I have never ever been treated in a hospital so why should part of our taxes go on an nhs that maybe you use more than I do (I'm not saying that's the case but trying to put my point across without being rude).
Anyway think I'll leave this thread now as it seems that a few people can't be adult and discuss fors and againsts without silliness.

redballoon_2

Signed! Lets hope the government comes to it's senses..!

Susan_Frost

Regarding everyone paying bits and pieces for everyone else.

Why not just think that while we are on this Earth, we all, as individuals are born, are children, grow into adults, becoming penisoners, etc. etc. and receive and pay into the systems at varying times of our lives.

Therefore, we all, basically, pay for ourselves.

Please dont post lots of stuff about some people not working, etc. etc. just take what I mean at face value. Thanks.

SandC

I was looked after a lot by a friend's mum, as were other kids when we were younger after my mother died. Any accident in the home would have been treated as just that. An accident. Any decent parent would not leave their kids with friends who they consider to have a house unsafe for children - in fact, if different households have different things going on surely it's nothing but good for the child to learn that just cos they have a stairgate at their house, they don't at Mrs X's so be careful.

What next? I can't babysit for my nephew or my friend's two children?

seven-day-weekend

Signed it.

A pair of working mothers come to a mutually agreeable arrangement to help each other out re work and childcare and are told they cannot do this and each one of them has to pay someone else.

Ridiculous.

faye6174

Signed it.

It's a whole other topic but there are enough people sitting on their ar*es all day so when people actually make the effort to go to work they should be commended not penalised.

What a great idea. (the women swapping childcare, not the government!)

my_gorgeous_ellie-belle

Oh i know of some childminders with terrible ethics. I would much rather pay a member of my family who i trust than send my child to a childminder. Things go on and it takes a while before you realise with a childminder - especially if it's for care for a baby or toddler who can't tell you what is happening.

I had a childminder smack my child, she had far too many children in her care to cope and my daughter who was just learning to speak came home swearing nearly every eve. I quickly put a stop to it - which meant leaving my job and the worst thing is i know so many people who have had similar experiences.

Some, not all at all(in fact i'm sure just a minority) of chilminders tend to do the job so THEY can stay home with their own children - they think the job will be so easy (it's not at all) and then get overwhelmed at the amount of work it is. Sometimes they don't even like children but do it just for the money and the fact they can stay at home. Then take on their maximum limit of children and can't cope but won't reduce the amount as they don't want to lose the money.

Then obviously the children get treated badly. My daughters childminder had great ofsted reports initially, so the reports are not always to be trusted.

Personally i'd rather someone i know and trust - i'd happily pay for them to do a first aid course too as it'd be for my own peace of mind. Or do what i am doing now and we struggle like crazy.

BTW i do now some lovely childminders too - just in the area i used to live in every other mum was a registered childminder and too many doing it for the wrong reasons

my_gorgeous_ellie-belle

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my_gorgeous_ellie-belle

I have stuck this over on mumsnet - i hope they don't mind. I think this needs all the help it can get!