Warning Notice

marbella

My son was stopped by a PCSO on the street in his car and given a warning notice for 'Driving in an anti social manner'. The incident supposedly happened on the Tuesday and he was given this 3 days later on the Friday. My first query is: as he is only 17 should they have contacted me as he is a juvenile? Secondly: the PCSO said that they did not get his registration number so they could not give him the warning notice earlier and thirdly my main concern is that they have written the wrong car make on the notice. I hope this makes sense as I have tried to keep it short but I was just wondering if anyone can advise me whether I should take this further as I think he has been mistaken for someone else who is driving the same colour car and is a young male driver. thanks for any advice.

DaveF327

So is this "warning notice" a fine or penalty, or just a piece of paper saying "don't do it again"?

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers!

Hes old enough to go to prison, so no, they shouldn't contact you.

My suggestion would be that you give your son a slap, and tell him to stop driving like an idiot, which is almost certainly what he has done.

marbella

Well I didn't mention, that at the time that is written on the warning notice, he was actually with his friends bowling. Also, apart from being 17 he doesn't drive like an idiot. He is a careful driver with a really nice car, paying £4000 a year insurance and obviously taking the blame for some other idiot. I may just leave well alone as it seems that I might make things worse and just get him to put it down to experience.

Rallydriver

Who's car was this in? His own or a family car?

Whats been done to the car? Has it got aftermarket wheels, lexus style rear lights, LED washer jets, tints, a big noisy back box (exhaust) or anything like that on it? Is it debadged in any way?

Was he even in the area that the alledged anti-social driving took place in at the time it was alledged?

sophieschoice

Did he get a Section 59 warning? This is applicable to him personally not the car he is driving. I'm not a traffic law expert but I think if he is caught behaving in an anti social manner in ANY mechanical vehicle within the next 12 months then the vehicle will be seized.
Perhaps best not to lend him your car anytime soon!
If he's old enough to be out and about in his car then he's certainly old enough to take the consequences of any of his actions.

marbella

He was driving his own car which is not modified in any way as he pays enough insurance to start with so has not made any changes to standard, also he was in the bowling alley in a different place.
It was a warning that applies to him, so no he cannot drive my car at all now.

sophieschoice

I'm a bit confused. What does this notice look like and does it have his full details on like name, date of birth, address and postcode?

The_Pedant

So, by their own admission, they did not get the registration number, the vehicle is the incorrect make and at the stated time he was bowling?

I would have thought such inconsistencies would be enough for any traffic case to be thrown out.

If all the above is certain, I would have a word at the local station. Leave it to them to follow up any enquiries.

trevormax

I think I saw something like this on Road Wars on Sky 1. Apparently (from my understanding of what happened on road wars), members of the public can call the police and complain aboutr people driving in an anti-social way. The driver is then slapped with this notice.

Then if there are any more complaints about the car, the police come and take it away. In the episode I saw, the driver was parked in a car park doing nothing wrong when the police spotted him yet they still took his car. If it is the case that the police will act on just a complaint (and i'm not saying it is) it would leave it wide open to abuse from anyone who has a grudge against someone.

Having a look at some sites though, this warning can be issued for ANY anti-social behaviour, not just driving like a douche. This includes playing music too loudly, revving your engine unnecassarily and blasting the car horn when it should not be used.

However, if as you stated your son has a standard car which looks and sounds the same as any other similar car (so basically it's not unique in your area and easy to pick out), and the PCSO didn't have anything which identifies your son or his car in an anti-social act, then I personally would complain and ask them to cancel the warning on the grounds that there is nothing to prove your son was the person involved in the anti-social behaviour.

goldspanners

marbella wrote: »

. My first query is: as he is only 17 should they have contacted me as he is a juvenile?

maybe you shouldnt have let him out by himself,maybe you should have been there with him then if he isnt adult enough to be out on his own.